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30-AUG-2004

Shadow game, St. Malo, France, 2004

Vantage point is everything in street photography. Sometimes we can shoot close in, while other times we must back away. Every now and then we can find a spot where we won’t be seen at all, such as from high up on the ramparts that enclose the ancient city of St. Malo, France. While shooting down from on St. Malo’s lovely beaches, I noticed this quartet enjoying a friendly competition. Then I looked again at the scene, and from this particular angle, their shadows incongruously become players as well. Four become eight, and the ball the lady is tossing is suspended in the air. Yet the ball in the air also looks very much like the one sitting on the ground. The only way we can know if her ball is in flight is because is because the ball on the ground casts a small shadow, while the ball in the air does not. Although this is technically a beach and not a street shot, there really is no difference. Both are about the inter-relationship of people in public spaces, and both are about the meaning of moments captured in forever in time.
Shadows are always fascinating in street photography, because they become symbolic extensions of the people who cast them. In this case, the four shadows seem to become part of a game.

I am more conscious than ever about the role of shadows in my street photography, because of what I’ve learned from pbase photographer Jen Zhou’s street imagery. Click on the thumbnail at the bottom to see Jen’s shot of a pacing Shanghai cab driver.
It continues to haunt me – I see it now whenever I am looking down at a scene from above on a sunny day, and it causes me to find meanings in my images that I might not have even considered before seeing Jen’s shot. My own Shadow Game was inspired by Jen’s taxi driver image, which I first saw only a few days before I left for Europe. While I did not copy her concept, I was certainly aware of it as I shot. There really are no new ideas in photography. There are only new ways to express old ideas.

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Phil Douglis27-Feb-2005 03:22
Hi, Dandan,

Glad this picture bugs you. It is always my joy to make pictures that cause viewers to feel, think, and wonder. And you are doing a of wondering here. To answer your questions, that ball never had a shadow, at least not within the frame of this picture. A function no doubt of the position of the ball and the angle of the sun. I would never ever crop out a shadow to change the meaning of a picture. It is not ethical in travel photojournalism. The wall is left in to imply depth, to pull the viewer in to the picture. I think that is what Jen meant -- it gives the picture a base to work from as far as the viewer's perception goes.

As for the missing shadow -- it will always have to be one of those mysteries. Glad you were so affected by this image. It's part of my job!
Guest 02-Feb-2005 14:09
Phil, a few weeks ago, for the first time I saw this one, the missing shadow of the flying ball was bugging me. Now I came back again, try to see if I could feel differently, but it still bugs me…:-/
Did you crop out the shadow on purpose? Are you trying to say that is two different worlds in the shadow and under the sun?
Another question: Why did you leave the wall at the edge of the frame? I didn’t get it when Jen said that it made the image more solid…
Phil Douglis09-Nov-2004 19:35
You have a wonderful imagination, Zebra, to be able to see the humor in this shot. What you are seeing is what I call "the human comedy" -- people are often amusing to look at, just doing ordinary things. Like these French folks, playing a game in the sun. I am glad you noticed the role that shadows play here as well.
Guest 09-Nov-2004 15:36
Phil,I love this photo.The relation among these four people amuse me.Three stand with their arms drooping,but only one hold up her right arm,and they are all looking at one point seriously.Although I don't know what they are ding,your image is rich of humor and imagination.It rouses me to think of some caroons of Comic.The shadow strengthen the contrast between the pose of one and the poses of three.
Claudio Gatti03-Oct-2004 20:23
Hi Phil,

As I mentioned in my comment on worldisround this is one of my favorite of you Saint Malo series. I'm glad somebody posted the reference to "Me and my Human" since this is what I immediately associated when I saw your picture. I saw the picture of the skaters a few weeks before my European trip, and it is been "haunting" me ever since. As in those cases when you learn something new, I started see (probably just notice) similar photos and ideas all around me! Thanks for sharing this image, and your analysis.

Claudio
Phil Douglis26-Sep-2004 21:46
Doug,

Thank you so much for supplying a link to the Galbraith Report displaying that stunning aerial photograph made by photojournalist Vincent Laforet for the New York Times. If ever there was an image that bears out my belief that "people and their shadows often lead entirely different lives" this is it! I can only gasp at the wonder of it. "Me and my human" is a great title for this picture. (Of course you have to be old enough to remember Jimmy Durante singing "Me and my Shadow," to catch the significance of it.)
Guest 26-Sep-2004 19:45
You're welcome Phil.

Your passion for teaching is great, your words and images always evoke thought. I have much to learn on the language of imagery... my work at this point is driven purely by my eye and my heart. I am looking forward to incorporating some new things into my work.

Here is a link to the Laforet image... it is actually called "me and my human"... a fitting title for an image with "twins" as subjects... the shadow being the "twin"...

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-6454-6928

Doug
Phil Douglis25-Sep-2004 23:38
Once again, Doug, you have made a valuable contribution to my cyberbook. As you can see from the on-going dialogue between myself and Jen Zhou, I've helping her learn how to grasp the meaning of a photo by studying the inter-relationship of its parts. Your comment illuminates our discussion, and my photo as well. I fully intended this image to be looked at more than once. It is, as you say, about a game involving both people and their shadows but you must, as you say, "tweak the context of your vision" in a particular way in order to see it. I look forward to seeing how you are able to add depth and meaning to your own imagery through this principle, Doug. And if you can find a link to LaForet's shot of those Central Park skaters, I would love to see that as well. Thanks for dropping by, as always.

Phil
Guest 25-Sep-2004 07:03
Phil,

This is also excellent...

It reminds me of the work of Vincent LaForet from NY... specifically, a shot called "shadow skaters" I believe. It is a wonderful overhead shot of skaters in Central Park that has a beautiful interplay of shadows skating in unison with the subjects... the shadows become the primary performers and the people almost secondary figures... an absolutely beautiful and brilliant image. You must see it if you have not...

Your shot is also beautiful and follows the same path. It definately illustrates that you can change the look of an image in your mind simply by relooking it or changing (tweaking) the context of your vision.

On first glance, this is an excellent shot... on second glance, it is wonderful and unique art.

As a side note, the color pallette and subjects here are wonderful in themselves but the shadows take the image to another level and add an entirely unique dimension to the equation.

Great job here, it is excellent.

I will look for an opportunity to play with this principle soon... ; )

Doug
Phil Douglis24-Sep-2004 17:02
I am glad you are starting to read this image in a different way, Jen. There is often much more in a photograph than originally meets the eye. A visually literate person -- someone with experience and knowledge in the "language" of photography -- can do this kind of thing routinely. But for those who are not yet visually literate, or who are in the process of becoming so, it takes study and hard work. That is where you are now, Jen. You make brilliant images, but you are doing it on instinct. You look at the images of other photographers and appreciate their beauty or power, but you must work hard to understand why they work as they do.

You are right -- some images do project a very obvious dominant meaning and can be absorbed all at once. But the more rewarding ones take more time, knowledge, experience and hard work to put together as a story or message. Photographs are very much like literature, fine music, poetry, painting, and sculpture. They function at different levels of meaning, and the more you learn about each medium of expression, the more literate you become. You are now learning how to become visually literate. That is one of the purposes of this cyberbook. Once you absorb all of the knowledge I have assembled for you here, you will have all the tools you need to become a visually literate person.
Phil
Jennifer Zhou24-Sep-2004 15:45
That really helps.."Look at all the parts, to see how they work together". And" imaginary game" is also another important hint for me!

This photo just tells so much things..I learned inter-realtionship, how shadows work, imaginary world....It was kind of hard to me putting so many things all together. I somewhat still expect one very obvious dominant meaning for it..maybe that is not how this image works..

Jen
Phil Douglis23-Sep-2004 16:09
Hi, Jen,

Thank you for these comments. You show me that you are quick and good learner, and I look forward to seeing you put these concepts to work in your own photos.

You are still having difficulty reading this picture, aren't you, Jen? OK -- try this: you are looking at individual pieces of it. You are seeing fragments, instead of the whole image working together. So I want you to stand back and look at the picture as whole, instead of as individual parts. And then look for TWO games going on here at once. There is a game between the people -- three men watching a woman throw a ball. And there is another game between the shadows -- three shadows watching one shadow holding its arm up in victory!

There is a good lesson here for anyone who wants to read pictures more effectively. Look at all the parts, to see how they work together. But also stand back and look at how the overall elements-- in this case the group of people, and the group of shadows -- inter-relate. This picture is about two games, one real, the other imaginary. I did not mention this in my explanation because I wanted my viewers to discover it for themselves.

Have I convinced you yet, Jen. If so, please tell me why. And if not, please tell me why. This is how we learn.

And thank you again for your perceptive comment,

Phil
Jennifer Zhou23-Sep-2004 15:42
Thanks Phil for your wonderful explanations.

I am charmed by your remarkable insight on the shadows, and the relationship between people and their own shadows. the frustrated taxi driver and his powerful shadow indeed lead entirely different lives. I only see the length of that shadow but never be aware of the shape would add another meaning for this picture! Thank you for leting me have a fresh view on this old picture once again. The important thing for me is that you sharp my view on looking at shadows from this moment and I am looking forward discovering more about this mysterious part of us~~

Yes I understand now what inter-realtionship means. And to see the picture again, you did provide views many fine small details telling story about this people inter-realtionship which makes the picture very delicate. However, they still seem like many fragments to me and the main idea here is not very obvious as I see it. This is my very first feeling about this picture and after your explanations I am still not quite convinced. Please try to convince me teacher Phil!!


Jen
Phil Douglis22-Sep-2004 17:54
Hi, Jen,

Thanks for your wonderful comment and questions. It is only fitting that you are the first to comment on this image. I made it while thinking of your taxi driver shot. To answer your excellent questions:

What does "inter-relationship of people" in public spaces mean? It means how people behave with each other. Body language, the spacing between people, their gestures, costume, and expressions, can all be part of such inter-relationships. Inter-relationships can tell stories. In this shot, for example, the people are inter-related by costume -- the two men wear only shorts. The two women are much more covered up. How people dress can tell you a lot about them, and in this case, I relate members of two genders by clothing. Also look at their arms. The two people in back hide their arms. The two people in front show them. They are unconsciously mimicking each other's body languge, and I often try to create inter-relationships based on subtle behavior. The most striking inter-relationship here is passive vs. active activity. Three of these people do nothing. All watch, as one lady takes action. Does this help you understand what I mean here, Jen?

As for my comment to my friend Tim May, about your taxi driver and his shadow "leading entirely different lives," please don't take that literally. I meant it symbolically. Your taxi driver seems to be to be quite vulnerable. He is small, head is down, waiting for someone who may never come. A fare lost? Precious time squandered? I see his life at this moment as being very frustrating. Yet look at the strength of his shadow! It soars through space, wrapping around one side of the long shadow of the taxi itself. It seems powerful, inquisitive, like a giant fairy tale. That's what I meant by saying that people and their shadows often lead "different lives." Look at the shadow of the woman in this picture, Jen. Arm upraised, the shadow seems to be celebrating victory, doesn't it? Yet in real life, her arm is actually forward, throwing the ball. She and her shadow lead different lives here as well. We should always be aware of the difference between the appearance of people and their shadows, because the symbolic implications of such contrasts can be very important to meaning.

Thanks too, for mentioning the two walls here, Jen. I almost cropped the out of focus bottom wall out because it seemed distracting to me at first. What is it, one might wonder? But I kept it in the picture for the very point you mention. Games are indeed governed by rules. As you say, the walls here solidly rule in the picture, enclosing the game in a frame within the frame. You have a remarkable eye, Jen -- not many people would have picked up on that subtle point, but you did.

Thank you again for inspiring me to take this picture, Jen, by sharing your own taxi driver image with us. And thank you too for these wonderful comments and questions. You have given me still another chance to teach some important ideas here.

Phil
Jennifer Zhou22-Sep-2004 14:24
Thank you teacher for linking my picture and your nice comment here!

Sometimes shadows help us to emphasize ideas, sometimes we can only use them to tell story which at the same time abstract the idea making the image more powerful. In my taxi driver picture I use the shadow to emphasize the idea of waiting, and here in your picture the shadows form another playing team which makes this picture more interesing to look at.

You said that this picture is "about the inter-relationship of people in public spaces", but I don't really understand what's this inter-relationship about? Could you explain more to me? Thanks!

And your below comment about my taxi picture says "people and their shadows often lead entirely different lives!" Can you tell me why they lead different lives? I am not aware of that point in my picture.

I like you including part of the walls framing this picture, they are as if the rules of the game, and as a result this picture is more solid to me.

Jen

Phil Douglis19-Sep-2004 02:19
You are right,Tim. The most active area of this image is indeed that lady's own shadow. Shadows often acquire a life of their own, don't they? Look at Jen Zhou's taxi driver that is linked to this shot, and my inspiration for this picture. Note how it almost wraps around the taxi! This is a fascinating concept -- people and their shadows often lead entirely different lives! (I hope Jen will stop by here when she gets the chance and tell us what she thinks about this concept as well.)
Tim May19-Sep-2004 00:38
The shadow of the woman throwing the ball is the one that makes this image leap to the eye for me. It is possible for a static shadow to almost show more action than the living people.
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