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31-MAR-2005 Lonnit Rysher

* Sepia Bucket

Old Bethpage Restoration Village, New York

Same story, different tones! LOL! I came back with some lovely shots.
Today was a revelation for me in terms of light. In an old barn with
doors wide open, I shot some beautiful portraits of the children. I
was stunned and overwhlemed with excitement to finally have 'gotten
it'. I grew more as a photographer this day, then all the previous
days combined!I wish the challenge would have been a theme that would
have allowed me to show off the portraits! LOL!

Need I say I am immensely enjoying my new L lens?!!!

Canon EOS 10D ,Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM
1/90s f/2.8 at 24.0mm iso200 hide exif
Full EXIF Info
Date/Time31-Mar-2005 10:59:02
MakeCanon
ModelEOS 10D
Flash UsedNo
Focal Length24 mm
Exposure Time1/90 sec
Aperturef/2.8
ISO Equivalent200
Exposure Bias
White Balance (-1)
Metering Modepartial (6)
JPEG Quality (6)
Exposure Programaperture priority (3)
Focus Distance

other sizes: small medium original auto
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ctfchallenge09-Apr-2005 03:49
Nut, some people are more tolerant of BHs than others. I used to be moreso until Uncle Rod showed me the ligh - pardon the pun! LOL! A shot without a BH will get more votes than one with - all other things being equal. The more I look at this particular BH, the more harsh it looks. :( My first instincts were to sepia it, and I did, but as I was closing down the file it revealed the original color shot and then that one really pleased me. So, undecided and having already done the work, I entered both. :) ~ Lonnit
PhotoNUT 08-Apr-2005 23:46
A photo with a blown highlight would not affect my vote. But its great t have this kind of feedback, and when we put that (*) after the name, we have to be prepared to feedback, and I like people to tell it like it is. Don’t sugar coat things, just hit me with it.

But, this tiny blown highlight, IMO, is minor and does not takeaway from the shot. A simple conversation to black and white should put this controversy to rest.

I still like this photo, blown highlight or not and I still prefer this photo over the color version, its an antique item and sepia works well, as would black and white.....Again, good job.
ctfchallenge08-Apr-2005 00:08
Rod,Ok no excuses. :) I blew the hightlight. Acknowledged. You're right - I'd not post a shot that had an objectionable thing in the frame, so the hightlight should be no different.
I really appreciate your not allowing me to get away with it. The whole reason I came here is to learn and get excellent critiques like what you just gave. That's what makes me improve. I will improve much faster when I'm not allowed to get away with this stuff. I can't seem to find enough people willing to be blunt with me about my shots. I've actually posted shots and begged for condemnation! LOL! Rod, you're a good friend. :)

And yes, it is an incredible feeling to have sold a shot! I look forward to many more, and the more you ride me the more I will sell!!! :)

Thanks soooooooooo much,
Lonnit
Rod 05-Apr-2005 10:07
Not professional standards Lonnit just serious amateur standards. It doesn't matter what faults are in a shot if they are acknowledged as such. But when I see excuses such as "the light was this" or "the sky was overcast" or "the shadows would have been mud" as though this makes the shot OK, It doesn't. It's up to us to make a shot out of the conditions presented to us at the time of taking the shot this is part of the art or skills of photography. 30yrs ago many was the time I went back to a spot to see if the lighting was suitable for getting the shot I wanted. If I couldn't get back to that spot I would take some snapshots with blown sky or whatever faults in just to remember the place by & then I would shoot governed by the lighting, trying to get a shot without faults that was suitable for showing or printing. When I did the candid street challenge I got quite a few very good shots spoilt because someone just moved into or just out of the frame by the time the G2 had decided to take the shot. I didn't post these very good shots with a fault by explaining that the distracting person walked into the shot while the G2 was thinking so ignore that distracting person because it was the G2s fault. No it was my fault for not knowing & calculating the G2s deficiencies for this type of shot & adjusting to suit. It was lucky that I had enough to show here that I liked. The shots with obvious faults are called rejects if you want to become a good photographer. Putting up with so so shots then you become a so so photographer. It's a lot easier now as a lot of things can be fixed in Photoshop. Well done on selling your first shot, it must have been a big thrill. Good onya Lonnit:-)
Canon DSLR Challenge05-Apr-2005 02:56
Alright Rod, if you're going to hold me to professional standards, I'll have to agree with you there. As for the situation, I was on a field trip with my daughter's class. I had no spare equipment with me, just the camera and flash around my neck. It would have been very disruptive of me to have gone thru all the necessary steps to get the shot without BH even if I did have a sheet with me. However, you're right, a sheet is a good idea to toss into my backpack for future use when the situation allows it. Thanks. ~ Lonnit
alexeig04-Apr-2005 20:57
Very nice bowl, Lonnit. I like this version more
Rod 04-Apr-2005 19:11
Nutcase has a good point about B&W. The only way these BHs would work is if there were visible rays of light coming through the picy & hitting the tub. As a photographer it's your job to work with the light you have, if the lights no good for your equipment then you re-shoot on another day when the light is something you can work with. There should never be an excuse why a fault is in a set up shot you could have had someone hold up a white sheet to filter the light, didn't have a white sheet with you? Well you should have. You have just sold your fist picy so all your shots have potential resale so you need to take along the means of getting good shots without obvious faults. A BH has no excuse, as they can be prevented if we go to the trouble. If we don't go to the trouble then that is the reason the BH is in the picy, not the lighting of the scene.
PhotoNUT 04-Apr-2005 16:46
Convert it to black and white, as blown highlights are acceptable with B&W shots, from what I have read anyways..
Nugar04-Apr-2005 16:35
Ditto here: after Rod arrived, I pay much more attention to the blown highlights.
ctfchallenge04-Apr-2005 16:26
I agree. The highlights provide a strong contrast necessary to balance all the darkness in the background.

Mary Anne
Canon DSLR Challenge04-Apr-2005 14:16
IMO, this was an allowable blown highlight. I've been very careful about blown highlights since you arrived! LOL! I say this one is permitted. :) The shadows would have been mud if the highlight would have not been blown. Once in a while you've got to break the rules. :) ~ Lonnit
Rod 04-Apr-2005 09:37
Lonnit still has the Blown Highlight click to go:-) It spoils the feel of the shot.
Canon DSLR Challenge03-Apr-2005 23:15
Thanks. The sepia was PSed. ~ Lonnit
Guest 03-Apr-2005 21:19
WOW Lonnit! Even better! I thought the previous one was good. Did you do the sepia in PS or in camera? -Cat
Nugar03-Apr-2005 14:58
Hi Lonnit,

Both images are beautiful, although I love this one more. About "getting it", I've always thought that it is actually a braincell-level process. When I was learning to read music, it was so mechanical, so lifeless, until one day everything just clicked. I felt I actually understood it. So far it has been the same with every hobby I've taken. I'm glad you got your click. I'm still getting "clacks", but I feel that now I'm getting nearer and nearer my own click.
PhotoNUT 03-Apr-2005 08:34
I like this one the best out of the two. Nice shot!