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24-MAY-2009	deseng

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ctfchallenge		01-Jun-2009 06:28
Rod Don't forget Debi that he may have been disappointed that you only took one shot, you maybe have to read their attitude to know if they're irritated by wot you're doing. By the looks of him he looks good for a few shots at least. Did he ask for your phone number:-)

Guest		01-Jun-2009 05:18
No this was not grabbed out of a window. But I did take the shot in a hurry. Although he had agreed to the pic, I always feel uncomfortable taking up peoples time, and took this one quick shot - Debi

ctfchallenge		30-May-2009 15:57
This shot pulls the viewer in well Debi and I can see where the foreground characters position maybe lends to using a tilt (though I wish we could see all the pallet he is sitting on). For me I wish it was tilted about half as much though. Am I correct in guessing this was grabbed out a car window? ~Brent

Guest		29-May-2009 13:31
Thank you K. I like using the 10-20 myself - Debi

ctfchallenge		29-May-2009 09:31
I love all your entries in this challenge, Debi. Well seen and done! Konstantin

ctfchallenge		28-May-2009 10:25
Rod Well most blokes & some up themselves girls would artiiiiiistically cr*p on about why they felt the need to tilt but your reasons were refreshingly honest AND very cute & girly:-)

Guest		28-May-2009 05:34
I wonder how it will look if I crop and rotate it? And Rod no one has ever called me "cute & girly" - ever. :) - I was just explaining my rationale behind the tilt- Debi

ctfchallenge		28-May-2009 02:42
Rod Not at all Tommy, we all view picys in our own way & that's why a little controversy about a picy is very helpful & healthy. I learn a lot from these chats as it really helps to clarify my mind & to help rid it of a prejudice against against something my instinct just throws up. I must admit that this picy is getting better the more I look & talk about it........So bugger off Tommy & leave me to me prejudices:-)

ctfchallenge		27-May-2009 23:40
I probably sound like a pompous arss after all of this because the bottom line is that I like it for the same reasons Rod doesn't. It's just a matter of taste. What Rod finds objectionable, I find stimulating to my eye. Art school classes don't matter except maybe it can lead to an understanding of the visual effects which might otherwise confound the viewer. The bloke in the upper corner is necessary for balance and it doesn't matter to me if it is tilted as long as it is consistent within the esthetic of the picy - big feet and all. -tv

ctfchallenge		27-May-2009 07:19
Rod If I just heard you just describing this picy Tommy without me having seen it & why it works as a tilt makes me want to agree with everything you say as it makes a lot of sense. Yet I've been sitting here wondering why it's very disturbing to my eye. I found the only way I can look at it with anywhere near a sense of how I look at picys is by holding my hand over the top right corner to remove the bloke on the phone. I think my eye goes to the bloke laying on the washing & then pausing to watch the game of wot we call pocket billiards & my eye then wants to continue on down the street but the bloke on the phone is always calling to me while I'm going where is natural for my eye. There are a few tilts that I like but the small area of the frame that the main subject occupies here makes the tilt far too messy as there's too much else to look at which the 45deg tilt makes impossible for me.If the main subject occupied most of the frame maybe a tilt would work to add impact. Obviously this is a thing related to my aversion for a tilt for tilt sake but I know there's a really good picy here & I will have to defer to your art training about this picy. """I just wanted to make his feet look larger - Debi""" That made me really laugh Debi & it was very cute & girly:-)

Guest		27-May-2009 05:14
I just wanted to make his feet look larger - Debi

ctfchallenge		27-May-2009 01:36
Rod I also don't like tilt if is is little more than an artificial contrivance. But here is really works to a clear compositional purpose and is also sympathetically to amplify the mood of the image. Other reasons I feel the framing is 'perfect'. The bluejeaned man's head is exactly on the vertical half-way point which as framed establishes him a competing perspective point competing (and dominating) the natural perspective point lower on the left. The relationship between the frame and the precise positioning of the man, especially his head and two feet delicately flirting with the nearby edges, establishes him as tied to and seeming to control the frame and its orientation. Within the frame, even as dominating as the primary figure is, there is sufficient interest elsewhere to fill the frame with diversions: especially the man scratching his whatever and the man on his cellphone. The details of the background are so well positioned that that it almost seems staged by a professional. -tv

Guest		25-May-2009 05:48
I kind of like the tilt. Tommy explained it nicely why it looks nice. The casual pose seems to need a tilt. Many way thanks for your comments Penny, Rod, Doug and Troy - Debi

ctfchallenge		25-May-2009 05:44
Rod Reading Tommys post I thought I may have misjudged this so I keep coming back to it but me eyes won't settle with the tilt at all.

ctfchallenge		25-May-2009 03:38
Debi this is great. The framing is perfect; colors are excellent and the tilt works wonderfully well to present a humorous view of this street scene. The confident, even cocky, attitude of the man in blue jeans directly peering at your lens is somehow amplified by this topsy-turfy view. The frame works as a major element of his personality as he is relaxing comfortably down in the corner, as if he is controlling the tilt, using the photographic environment itself as his resting place. Very striking and sophisticated work. I love it. -tv

ctfchallenge		25-May-2009 00:18
Ouch on the tilt for me too Debi. -Doug

ctfchallenge		24-May-2009 22:11
Rod The tilt doesn't work for me at all here, not because I'm not fond of tilts but my eyes just don't sit right with this. You being this close you could have made a great composition with his leg in that position without resorting to a tilt a la Flickr. Nice try anyhow megirl.

Guest		24-May-2009 19:04
Yes, indeed. Good job.

ctfchallenge		24-May-2009 15:52
Wow - I love this one! the tilt is perfect and all the colors are just right. Penny Street

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