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20-MAR-2006

An extra measure of thanks, by Jennifer Zhou, Shanghai, China, 2006

Digital photography makes it possible to sometimes share the results of a picture with my subjects instantly. It brings them great pleasure. Although I was able to at least say “thank you” in Chinese, simply being able to show this family the photo I had just made of them ( click on thumbnail below to see it ) allowed me to offer them an extra measure of thanks. The gifted pbase photographer Jen Zhou not only made this image, but also made my image of them possible by talking with them as I photographed their interaction as a family. I had no idea that Jen had made this image – which is even richer in interaction than my own image of them. Jen had not shown it to me before now because she had felt this picture was technically flawed. She told me that she wished that “the people were not blurred," and felt that she "should have gotten more of me into the picture.” I told her that the blur added emotional content to the photograph, and that her tight framing did not hurt the expression of the message. Sometimes photographers can place greater value on form than on content. In this case, Jen’s content proves much more important than her form. It is a worthy addition to this gallery. ( You can see her own galleries at http://www.pbase.com/angeleyes_zyl/root )

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Phil Douglis19-Apr-2007 07:13
You see the softness here much as I do, Charu. We agree that content is more important than form in expressive photography. Thanks for this comment -- I am sure Jen will appreciate your thoughts, too. Welcome to my galleries.
Guest 19-Apr-2007 06:16
Phil, this is truly a lovely image - my kudos to Jennifer. I feel that the blur only adds to the feeling of happiness, which is anyway a "soft" emotion... the slight blur actually makes it seem like a warm glow surrounding the moment. sometimes technical excellence just has to give way to the need to capture the essence of the moment - and I think when it is when done well, does not hurt the image at all. Much rather that for me (personally) than a perfect photograph which leave me cold!
Phil Douglis10-Sep-2006 01:08
Thanks, Andrea. An expressive photographer such as Jen Zhou can make a viewer "feel" a picture by releasing her shutter at just the right instant to stop a joyous moment in time such as this one. Yes, photography is fun for me. And Jen's image bears that out.
Guest 09-Sep-2006 23:30
i can feel the fun you have by photographing. Great
Phil Douglis10-Aug-2006 17:56
Thanks, Zandra, for your kind remarks on Jen's photograph. I try to be the "happy hunter" -- sharing my finds with others, and getting great joy from it. Jen has been able to get just such a moment into this frame.
Guest 04-Aug-2006 07:08
This is another one which i feel must have captured "Phil". The way i have gotten to know you, or rather, the impression i have of you and the way i belive you are. Considerate towards other people, easy going, social and a "happy hunter". Thumbs up for Jen Zhou on this one.
Phil Douglis16-Jul-2006 02:02
You are very kind, Xin, to say these things. If credit be given here for conveying such things as trust, kindness, and sharing, it must be given to Jen who found those moments among others, and was able to express them so well.
Sheena Xin Liu15-Jul-2006 22:05
Yes, the rapport has been built. The smiles look so candid and heartfelt. I read from the picture kindness, trust and joy of sharing.
Phil, your warmth and kindness can be seen everywhere( inside or, out your cyberbook)
Phil Douglis05-Jul-2006 16:45
Thanks for the invite, Nicthe. I have a number of pbase friends in Hong Kong -- Hina and Emi among them and hope to get back there someday to meet you all.
Guest 05-Jul-2006 09:37
Glad you enjoy the stay in China. Always nice to hear people said they love your country.
If you have any chance to stop by Hong Kong, make sure you leave me a message.
I may not able to show you the best scenary of HK but sure I can pick up some nice food for your stomach, my dear Professor~ :]
Phil Douglis03-Jul-2006 17:45
Glad you love this pic, as much as I loved the pleasure of sharing my own image of them. I had such a great time on this trip, Nicthe, that I am already planning a return in 2007.
Guest 03-Jul-2006 15:18
Seems you have great time in our mainland, Professor!
Love this pic~
Phil Douglis29-Jun-2006 18:00
The capture, Shirley, is Jen's. It is she who sees what she sees here, who chose this moment in time to express this idea. And yes, I am a happy grandpa playing games here -- not just with the baby, but with all of them.
Shirley Wang29-Jun-2006 07:30
A great capture indeed. Phil, you look like a happy grandpa playing games with the baby :-)
Phil Douglis27-Jun-2006 05:34
Thanks HL -- Jen does more than just catch a moment in time. She weaves six different responses together and creates a tapestry that visibly throbs with joy. As Echo said, joy for us and well as them!
Guest 27-Jun-2006 04:36
Great catch of the moment !
Phil Douglis26-Jun-2006 16:51
Thanks, Echo, Kal, and David for adding your ideas to this discussion. You are right, Echo --this is kind of a community celebration here. It is not everyday that two photographers simply appear on the door step of complete strangers and make photographs that touch the heart. Kal -- I see the decisive moments here -- both in my image and the one that Jen makes of me sharing it with the subjects. And David -- thanks for noticing all the happiness here. Being able to simultaneously share my own passion for expression with my subjects is one of the greatest gifts of digital imaging.
Phil Douglis26-Jun-2006 16:45
Thanks, Jen, for commenting on your own image for us. This certainly completes the circle -- it is rare that we get to read comments on a single image by the photographer, the subject, and random viewers. The image certainly must work on a number of levels. It teaches us a wonderful lesson about the value of content over form. The emotions expressed in this image are genuine. Nobody here is self-consciously smiling for the photographer. They smile instead because of another picture that has already been made and is now being shared by both its subjects and its photographer. So you are making a photograph here about the power of photography itself, and how it can emotionally affect those who are touched by it.
david procter26-Jun-2006 14:47
Human values! What a wonderfully warm image. An array of infectious smiles and two young bystanders who'll catch up soon! Lovely to see a radiant Mr Douglis in his element.
Kal Khogali26-Jun-2006 13:16
The invisible witness as always, as you say Phil, no one probably does it better on pbase. The moment is always greater than the movement, and image of the decisive moment almost will always transcend slight blur...we have H-CB as proof of that. Great image, and yes...your human kind side too. K
Guest 26-Jun-2006 11:33
a time of joyance.
the local family, Phil, Jen and all of us who are looking at this shot.
Jennifer Zhou26-Jun-2006 05:27
Thank you Phil, Christine and AL, for letting me know that the content, the emotions are far more important than the technical aspect. I guess I just wanted everything to be perfect...

When I took this photo, nobody really noticed except the boy on the side. I feel, in this moment, everybody is in their true self, the smiles are so genuine, even for the boy staring at my camera, he is reacting from his natural curiosity. And Phil, even we don't see he smiles a lot in other photos of this gallery, but he is a very kind, warm person, and always has this smile on his face..
Phil Douglis26-Jun-2006 05:09
Thank you, Christine, for your appreciation of Jen's abilities. There are very few photographers on pbase that are her equal when it comes to expressing human values, in this case what you see as kindness. I also see pleasure and curiosity in this image, and from those kids, expected indifference. I also thank you for those nice things you say about me here -- I appreciate your kindness, too.
Phil Douglis26-Jun-2006 04:59
Thanks, AL, for this comment. I am sure Jen will learn much from it. She is a perfectionist, sometimes so much so that her intentions can blind her to her results. It is a common problem shared by all of us. We are used to being judged by standard of technical excellence. But there are times when we should toss those standards in the trash. In this case, they mean nothing. As you say, there is so much meaning in this image that whatever technical flaws may be present become meaningless.
AL26-Jun-2006 04:45
Agree, the tight framing or the blur did not hurt at all. She'd captured the essence, the expression, the body language. As a viewer, I could feel the curiosity, excitement and joy of sharing, the warm smiles on their face and on yours. Brilliant.
Guest 26-Jun-2006 04:23
Bravo and thanks Jenn. Here we can also see Phil's human side and kindness. I was hoping someone would come up with such a picture.
Christine
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