I saw these guys with Girth/Mico de Noche/Secret Order of Tusk at the Stork Club, May 2005. I didn't have much interaction with them other than the drummer. I've seen him around at various shows and we briefly discussed the band Clutch. I was wearing my hoodie and he complimented my taste. I, of course, had to qualify my love for Clutch as being the older stuff. We agreed to disagree.