It was my first time really trying this with some birds that only recently began coming to a feeder that's been here for years so I'm sure I'll pick up some other ways but these were all shot within a couple feet using an 85mm f1.8 lens. I'll likely try it from a fixed tripod spot and a 300mm or 300mm + 2x teleconverter to get real close details but given that most of these were manually focused due to the 1.8, It will be tough doing the tripod thing, I think. Time will tell but we at least have some great detail here.