This is where we turned around.....was not the end of the trail, but since I was not carrying my GPS, I am not sure how far (of the 3 miles) we travelled in the 90 minute leisurely walk into the canyon. This area looks very much like the Kinder Crossing area I visited 2 years ago, located about 100 miles east northeast of Oak Creek. http://www.pbase.com/bobglen97/mogollon_rim__kinder_crossing)