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20-JUL-2008 Rod

Ansel likes this now.

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ctfchallenge25-Jul-2008 20:20
I liked the color version a lot Rod, but this is nice too. This might look interesting with the top inch cropped out too giving it a more abstract look and emphasizing the cracks in the sand. Just a thought! :-) CJ
aam1234 24-Jul-2008 17:18
- I suspected what you said, Cat, that color was not advanced enough at Ansel's time, that's why him and others were shooting B&W.
- Hope Rod is listening to what you said about White Balance ;)
ctfchallenge24-Jul-2008 15:44
I won't intrude upon your right to change from B/W to color to B/W ... you can do what suits you. I just wanted to make sure that no one should feel limited thinking that only "B/W" are allowed for this challenge. Unlike Ansel, I don't hold a particular opinion favoring B/W or color as such (Aam should be happy). One thing I feel that probably the color processing (film as well as print) had not matured as much as the B/W when Ansel was lugging his 8x10" around. And processing color film at home-labs accurately was not that easy during those days. So I feel, Ansel and his peers probably did not get the proper "taste" of color and didn't think it to be much worth (technology wise, Eastman Kodak etc) as compare to B/W (that time). So overall color remained unexplored until much later.
Plus the "rods and cones" on our retina are much more sensitive to B/W tones than they are to color luminosity. I read some where that we can resolve 6 time more depth in shades in B/W than in shades of color. Thats why although we can see shapes and shadows in very low light, we cannot actually make out the color of the subject until its illuminated to a certain brightness of EV 2 or 3 or more (somewhere in that range). One more thing that affects the zonal application to color is the "color of the source light" which is irrelevant in case of B/W. Although humans can automatically nullify the effect of color of the light source in a shot, cameras cannot; and hence one of the most problematic parameter in the digital age was born. Its called as "white balance" :-)
Geeeez... Rod is making me into a theoretical photographer ... some one stop me, please :-)
-Cat
ctfchallenge24-Jul-2008 15:29
Ah, ole Ansel can quit tossing and turning in his grave now :-)
~Brent
sven24-Jul-2008 14:08
LOL
LOL
I like this much better. :)
Rod 24-Jul-2008 09:58
Thanks all:-) Yes Penny I'm just being flippant about Ansel not liking colour picys in general. I agree wiv you Brent as I said to Mereana last week that this challenge is different than a general B&W challenge as we really try to get some tones into the picy along with some rich blacks & nice whites. If we do start to post colour picys than I think we can just post our run of the mill colour picy without thinking about the tonal range as such. Here's the B&W version for Suey & Brent & to annoy Aamm:-)
aam1234 23-Jul-2008 16:20
Now this is my kind of pic :)
ctfchallenge23-Jul-2008 14:56
We want black and white! We want black and white! I honestly think this would look better in black and white Rod. I seldom have posted anything but color in the past and really like that this challenge has forced me to work with it more. I'm all for going color I guess if that would increase participation for this challenge, but I wonder how many that would bring in would truly qualify as "zone" images as getting black and white images to qualify is hard enough. But whatever the masses want :-)
~Brent
sven23-Jul-2008 14:08
I'd like to see it in B&W. :)
ctfchallenge23-Jul-2008 13:51
Is your intention that color is the only anti-Ansel part of this photo and you're still trying to cover all the zones? Because then I'd be wondering about whether, if we do these in color, it would have to be all the same color. I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.
Penny Street
Guest 23-Jul-2008 07:52
Cat said in the main fred about colour zone picys.....So lets do it a:-)