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Red Cabbage
by Victor Engel
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2/1/2006 Victor Engel

8th Place
Red Cabbage
by Victor Engel


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Canon DSLR Challenge09-Feb-2006 15:01
Sorry--I see the ambiguity in "tilted 45-degrees to the left". By that I meant the face has "rolled", not "yawed". It's like we had viewed him from his full-faced front, but while we're elevated 45 degrees, took a picture and then rotated that 2-D image 45 degrees counterclockwise. His head, pate-to-chin, cheek-to-cheek occupies about 1/5 of the image's left half. It is surrounded by those sweet potatoes (or snails, or slugs--the leaf stems). He has eyes--or eyelids, more accurately--that are small. Below them is the pointy nose--a perfect V rotated 45-deg ccw. The horizontal bisector of the image cuts between his eyes; his nose lies just below that line. Just zero in on the large, unbroken, circular white space in the upper-left quadrant--all of that is the top of his head.

Wow, look at the chaos of words this image has produced, lol. Definitely on-topic if there had been any question in the first place.

Lew
Victor Engel09-Feb-2006 03:00
OK. Maybe I can see him in the thumbnail version. There aren't really any visible eyes, right? -- Victor
Canon DSLR Challenge07-Feb-2006 23:50
Still don't see it. And I'm finding it hard to follow your description, because items seem contradictory. If he's full faced, how can he be looking 45 degrees to the left and our perspective be 45 degrees from above? Are his eyes visible? What direction is he looking? Describe two ways: with respect to the picture, and with respect to the viewer. How big is his head compared to my face (since you are able to see it)? -- Victor
Canon DSLR Challenge07-Feb-2006 21:06
Victor, I see your face now. It's in profile. Also see the lady w/mascara. To find mine, the large circular portion that's partly blown out and just northwest of center is his bald head. He's full-faced, and tilted 45 degrees to the left (i.e., northwest). We're viewing him from the front but elevated 45 degrees. He's wide-jowled with a tiny chin. The small, dark curlicues begin at his mouth and spiral counterclockwise. .. Lew
Victor Engel07-Feb-2006 06:01
I don't see it at all. I'll describe the face I see, though. Starting from the core, count leaf stems (those large, white triangles), in a spiral, counterclockwise from the innermost one at the bottom. The eighth one in this spiral is the nose, pointing slightly upward, to the right. The eye is fairly round and dark. Just behind this one could be a ladie's face with too much maskara. -- Victor
Canon DSLR Challenge07-Feb-2006 01:35
Victor - re your question about the face: it's large, near the center and angled northwest. It looks like a praying monk--shiny-bald, with eyes closed (or looking down), and a pointed nose. It's easy to imagine that everything in the picture has emanated from his mouth. (Oh dear, now what does this say about me!!) .. Lew
elips06-Feb-2006 02:24
Again, a very nice take on chaos theory. The color version is gorgeous but for the purposes of this challenge the b&w version works very well. I like the orientation and the post processing seems fine. You did good! ~Sharon
Canon DSLR Challenge05-Feb-2006 06:34
One other thing -- I noticed right after cutting the cabbage that lines from the serrated edge of the knife I was using were clearly visible. I'm very pleased they're not visible on the final. -- Victor
Canon DSLR Challenge05-Feb-2006 06:32
I'm curious if you see the same face I see. Can you describe where the features are? I also see a fetus (the center of the cabbage is the head of the fetus). Any comments on the post processing of this image? Oh, and how about the orientation. This is actually rotated from the original. The original pretty much captured the whole width of the cabbage, and I cropped from there, rotating to what I felt was the best orientation. -- Victor
Ann Chaikin04-Feb-2006 20:33
Okay, I can see what you all are saying.... I defer. ;-) Ann
Canon DSLR Challenge02-Feb-2006 23:35
I much prefer the b&w also. There are so many things to see in this image--the face, the sweet potatoes, the baby seals and a whole lot of yucky stuff--that it invites titles completely unassociated with cabbage. I'm distracted from seeing all that in the color shot; it's a much more interesting photo in b&w. [Ok, maybe not baby seals, but *something*] .. Lew
Vikas Malhotra02-Feb-2006 06:10
Great one Victor, I too prefer the B&W version. Great composition with the larger leaves on the left.

Cheers, Vikas.
Canon DSLR Challenge02-Feb-2006 06:01
I actually, fairly strongly, prefer the B& W. With the color version you know instantly what it is.
Best Wishes, Traveller
Canon DSLR Challenge02-Feb-2006 05:57
Ann, What I did to start with was to slice the stem off. Then I made slices every couple cm or so. I think the best parts are at either "end", but I prefer near the stem, where you can see spirals forming from the leaf triangles. I have another project in the works (but probably not to be entered) using a kind of lettuce that's a bit like this. I don't think I'll be able to get a picture as good as this one, though, from it. -- Victor
Canon DSLR Challenge02-Feb-2006 05:52
I like the color. I think it adds depth to the image. Aren't these veggies amazing. I like that you went for the center where the leaves are fat and white. Ann C
Canon DSLR Challenge02-Feb-2006 05:48
I can't decide if I like the black and white or color version better. By design, I meant it to be color, but I also really like the black and white version. For comparison, here is the color version.

-- Victor