I acquired my first copy of the book A training course in Miracles circa 2005. I'd heard it referenced by many people of the spiritual teachers I became into at the time and figured I will probably take a look. Certainly one of my first memories of reading the Course was looking at a healthcare facility bed while awaiting x-rays on my small ankle from your skateboarding accident. From the reading the introduction, which said, "Nothing real might be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God." Sounds good right? Well I'd be completely filled with shit only said I had created some revelation, or really even any clue about what that meant. It sounded neat and esoteric however, therefore i read on. Soon after weeks, I squeeze Course aside since it was the same to reading the sunday paper written in Chinese. I happily returned to reading my books by Ram Dass and Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche....At the very least I can understand some of them, at least make believe you when conversing about them.

Fast-forward to 2007. I became within a local library after i found a good book called Tricks of the Immortal: Advanced Teachings from your Course in Miracles. I'd again be lying basically said I'd any revelation because of this audiobook, not because its content wasn't sufficient, speculate I downloaded it to my computer rather than heard it. Again, I went back to reading my others spiritual texts, now I'd advanced towards the like of Ken Wilber & Sri Ramana Maharshi, definitely much harder to make believe know very well what they were saying in conversation, on the other hand tried.

12 months later, in 2008, for reasons unknown, I looked at my copy of the Course in Miracles and made the resolution which i would finally read it, and not just read it, but understand it! Well, I can say that now I saddled with it, in most cases. I remembered the audio book I'd ripped to my library the year before, so I uploaded it to my trusty iPod and started paying attention to it on various commutes. Tricks of the Immortal actually broke the program down inside a comprehensive, yet user-friendly way that I really could assist.

About 50 % of way from the audiobook I realized I didn't know who I became listening too (damn bootlegged copies), and so i went back to the pc and discovered out it was Gary Renard. That name really meant absolutely nothing to me during the time, nor did any of the other Course teachers like Kenneth Wapnick or Marianne Williamson, as this is not a particularly popular spiritual path. Not because it is a rigid discipline, or there is dogma that come with it. Contrary, it's the the complete opposite of that.

After completing Gary's audiobook, I progressed on the firstly his two books provided by Hay House, titled The Disappearance with the Universe. I acquired DU (as it is also called by it's readers) and it was literally engulfed as soon as I started. Not merely made it happen always break up the program in ways that I really could understand, but it also talked about many contemporary issues, and just how they may be seen differently through the Course. I finished DU within per week and grabbed a copy of the Immortal Reality.

Your Immortal Reality really solidified my faith in Gary's teachings as while i finished it, I had created absolutely no problem reading and understanding A training course in Miracles. That's not to convey I don't have by sitting with, and contemplate lots of its passages every so often, but without Gary's work, my copy of A Course in Miracles would still be gathering dust for the bookshelf. Okay so what within the hell is often a Course in Miracles? Please read on and discover! (*Note- I'd like to reiterate even though A Course in Miracles is my own, personal, personal spiritual path, I, by no means, wish to promote, or endorse it more than any other spiritual tradition, most of which have been wonderful catalysts on my small spiritual path, i still combine today.)

The Gary Renard Interview PT I of II

TIS: Why don't we just get strait into it...In accordance with Training In Miracles (often known as ACIM), the interview you and I do right this moment is surely an illusion. Do you understand why for the people not really acquainted with ACIM's teaching?

GR: Sure. People can think about the universe of your energy and space like a projection. Anyone who has read my books realize that I enjoy visit the movies, plus an analogy I prefer to make is this, The year progresses into the movie theatre and I would like it to be real. The lights drop and my attention is diverted to the screen. Because i begin to focus on the screen, I'll get sucked in the story, possibly becoming emotional, and even actually talking to the screen. Therefore i forget that there are not really anything happening there, that it is a trick, an illusion, a sleight of hand. The American Indians use to say, "behold, the truly amazing mystery". Well the Course says "behold, the truly amazing mystery", but it also says "behold, the great projection". This is a projection coming from a projector, that's hidden. If you are in the cinema, you just aren't designed to consider the projector, you're supposed to that would be that and focus on-screen, which is what folks are going to do here too. They're emphasizing the screen that people call life, and they think it's reality, but because the Hindu's, Buddhist's & ACIM says, that it is an illusion. This course further refines that idea into this being wonderful that we'll awaken from, and that awakening this is the equal of enlightenment. It's what Buddha meant as he said "I am awake". He actually awoken from the entire desire time and space.

So let's say I'm inside the cinema and i also want to change what's on the watch's screen, not in the temporary way, but permanently. A means where I'm able to genuinely have something happen that would work. If I wanted to change that which was on that screen, it would not do me excessive fine up and waste time by it. I'd ought to understand that there is a projector that is hidden inside the back, that I'm not supposed to take into consideration that. Well, only actually want to change what's on the watch's screen inside a permanent way, then not simply would I must remember that there is a projector, I'd also need to find it, and alter what's inside.

So if I would do that, I'd personally be dealing with the cause, rather than effect. I might be from the position of power because I'd be doing regular something will work permanently as an alternative to only temporarily. It will give me real power because I will be dealing with the reason, instead of the effect, that's what the Course teaches, which is that it is a course in cause, and never effect. It also says "seek never to change the world, seek rather to modify your mind in regards to the world". For when you attend the mind, you'll where the projector is hidden, where this universe of time and space is coming from. What we're seeing is arriving from the projector that is actually hidden in the unconscious mind. I'm not really just discussing a person unconscious mind, which some people call the subconscious. I'm referring to the unconscious mind many of us share. There's only one of us sharing this unconscious mind which is where the universe of your energy and space is arriving from.

So consider it as being just like a movie you're watching. The program says you're revealing mentally what has now gone by. So it is already over so far as the program is worried, and we're just watching it. We're feeling however, that we are actually within it, and in what way out, is to change what's within the mind in line with the Course. It's a different type of forgiveness than a lot of people think about however, which we'll end up in. Just what exactly that does, can it be undoes this thing that I'll call the "ego". You can imagine the ego beeing the concept of separation, the concept that we've taken on this individual identity and existence which is somehow outside of its source.

Our experience now, is the fact that we're separate, that your body personifies. We presume like we're in bodies, and outside of other individuals, along with our source, which can be God. In order to think of the ego as the concept of separation. Just what the Course and other great spiritual teachings do is that they undo the ego. That's one of the things conditioned to me by my teachers in The Disappearance with the Universe plus your Immortal Reality. They educated me this course along with what it implies, using numerous quotations from it to show how it's actually saying. They made it happen so which i may go back and truly understand it's teaching. On their second visit, my teachers said which i would certainly buy my first copy of the Course, therefore i did, and it made no sense to me at all. It may too happen to be coded in an overseas language. After 7 or 8 visits from their website however, I possibly could go back and study this course, plus it actually made sense. After seeing that, I assumed there was something there, which would work.

So though it took quite a long time for the book to get ready, I tied to it. It absolutely was a labor of love. Irrrve never knew When it would be published or otherwise, or what the reaction could be. It's since solved very well though. Finished . my teachers educated me was that salvation, since the Course says, is undoing. The main reason what a brilliant approach is because if you undo the ego, the false you, should you could completely accomplish that job, then eventually the genuine choosing all that's left. The real you has nothing related to the universe of your energy and space. The actual you is exactly what this course would call spirit, though the Course uses words differently than it's almost common knowledge them. If the Course says "spirit", it is not referring to a perception of individuality. A lot of people imagine spirit beeing the same as the soul. You've got a soul and die, then there is it which goes on after you, which looks suspiciously just like the body you only left. Well that's still a perception of individuality and separation.

When ACIM uses the saying "spirit", it isn't referring to something which belongs to it, it's speaking about something is exactly the identical to its source, which is God. It's talking about something can experience, which experience is the identical to being God. The truth is, this course describes it as the attention of perfect oneness, so it will be an event you'll have, even while you appear to be here walking on inside a body. The quickest way to get that experience is to undo the ego, which leaves you inside a condition of spirit. At one point, this course states that mental performance is the activating agent of spirit. So it's by selecting (which is where forgiveness also comes in) the way you consider people. We are able to opt to obtain them being separate bodies, of course, if carry out that, that's how we'll experience ourselves. As we think about them to beyond their though, then we're doing exactly what the Course suggests, that's look beyond the veil, and overlooking your body. Eventually, we'll come to experience our self to spirit, that's as long as you think of them being nothing more than God, but rather, to everything.

There isn't one speck of information from the universe of time and space that your particular unconscious mind is unaware of. It knows everything. It will need to have access because it is projecting the universe of your time and space, in order that it must have got all with the information that is contained there. Now, one thing your unconscious mind knows, is that there's really only one of us. We presume that we have six billion individuals, with numerous decisions to pick from, and trillions of objects in the universe of time and space. The truth is though, no matter how many times you divide and subdivide, there's really only one of us that thinks it's here. There's that one ego that thinks it's separated itself looking at the source introduced with this personal identity and individual existence. There's one ego that thinks it's here, and you're simply it, it is not somebody else, there isnrrrt anybody else.

The rest 's what the Hindu's call the joy of multiplicity. It's literally a sleight of hand, an illusion. So were tricked from this thing, I'm calling the ego, because there is something we don't learn about it. The ego likes this idea of separation. It desires to stick with it, since it feels important & special. It's like Jesus' prodigal son story- he leaves his fathers house, sounding on his own as he thinks he is able to fare better, which ends up being a blunder. Everything that he finds is scarcity, and you can't have scarcity in heaven because everything you have is an knowing of perfect oneness, which I mentioned earlier. From the condition of perfect oneness, you have the entire thing, and you also can't have scarcity for those who have all of it. In addition, you can't have death if you have perfect oneness. It' not until you will find the split from that perfect oneness that you simply setup opposites along with the chance of a contrary your, which is death, and the possibility of a contrary to abundance, that is scarcity.



So everything you're seeing is founded on duality. This is exactly why it says inside the book of Genesis, you will not eat from your tree of knowledge of good and evil, during the day consume than it, you shall die. Well good and evil are opposites, and when you've got opposites, you can have death. You simply can't have death where there no opposites though, and that's why ACIM says directly in it's introduction, the alternative of affection is fear, but what 's all encompassing, which can be obviously God, might have no opposite. Just what exactly we should do is go back to a location where there isn't such thing as opposites, where there is not any death or scarcity. That's the thought of going home that Jesus is intending to share from the prodigal son story. Eventually the prodigal son realized he previously created a mistake, that's that he had left, and that the main one decision he had to generate would have been to return home, that he did. You notice and in that story, the prodigal son has many strange ideas about himself. He thinks he's guilty, and has ideas that he's committed a sin against his father, and is not worthy to get called God's on. So according to him, well maybe if I return home I could start towards the bottom and work my way up as one of His servants and get back in his good graces. What are the prodigal son doesn't seem to comprehend is that God doesn't share any sexual ideas about him.

The Bible and ACIM say God is perfect love, therefore if perfect love really is perfect love, then everything God knows how you can do is love. If he knew how to be angry, wrathful or judgmental, it may not be perfect love. What ACIM does is provide us with a God that really is perfect love and that God wants is good for us in the future home. All the other ideas, as the Course puts it, are your own nightmare and do not exist. So in that sense, it is actually a fantasy of guilt and separation that we are having. The concept is usually to undo that over the procedure for forgiveness that you see people to be this perfect spirit, when your unconscious mind knows everything, the other of the things that it knows is the fact that there really is one of us. So no matter what you think about another person, it is not dining out in them, it will you. Your unconscious mind will interpret that it is a message within you, for your requirements, and about you, given it is aware that there's really only among us.

There's a vital law with the mind that is articulated within a Course In Miracles that is simple, but true. It says, "As you see him, you will see yourself", so whatever you are considering someone else is actually just planning to you. It will also determine how you are feeling about yourself and eventually what you believe you're. You'll be able to believe you're body knowning that you're separate, additionally, you can think that you're this perfect spirit which can be identical to God. According to the Course, brain is the activating agent of spirit that is certainly how you can actually make positive changes to experience with life, from a state of depression into a state of happiness. You gradually move over on the connection with being spirit.

The ironic thing is that you could still need your lifetime. You don't need to give anything up, you continue to live a normal life this will let you great time. In the event you meet someone and fall madly in love, and even got married, go for it. I simply get married to myself this past year. Whatever is within front of the face is going to be for one of two purposes. You can judge it, or forgive it. You will have instances when you won't need to forgive anything. The focus of ACIM is just not on forgiving romantic a walks on the shore or music or art. The target from the Course is on forgiving the negative emotions that can come up.

This course also states that anger isn't justified. It does not say that you'll never get angry, I could just about guarantee you you will. It can claim that it's rarely justified and the sooner that you keep in mind that, the less you'll suffer. The reason that anger isn't justified is simply because the pain you are seeing is a projection that's via you. You are the individual who caused it to be up and set those people there, you wanted these phones be there. That might seem challenging to believe at first, that's what exactly it suited you. The guilt you felt over separating from God is viewed as being away from you, rather than inside you. That is the whole intent behind projection. A psychologist would let you know that whatever is denied, has to be projected. Well what we're looking at inside the universe of energy and space is actually a thing that is symbolic of separation, but it is based on a massive metaphysical denial just before time began, ahead of what appeared to be the Big Bang inside the universe of energy and space.

There was these items that particular ego felt very guilty about, and exactly how that that ego thought it might eliminate that guilt ended up being to deny it. Once it was denied, it turned out projected outwards that is certainly the place that the projection is originating from. Just how residence is to undo the projection, which again means that this course claims that salvation is undoing. So by undoing it, eventually that have of separation disappears. You come for the experience of perfect oneness and you are enlightened, and because the Course puts it, enough time arrive when you are scheduled to look at of here. So you'll lay the body aside for the final time, and since there is no ego, there is absolutely no cause of one to revisit. In order that perfect oneness with God turns into a prominent experience for you personally, once you lay your body aside for your final some time to simply go back home. Then this experience with perfect oneness becomes your permanent reality.

TIS: Phew. I've read your books, and heard your mp3 audio books numerous times, which is still a lot to eat. There is a deep truth that resonates for me though as you speak however.

GR: Yeah, this course says a good deal, but you'll find that everything this course says, all fits together, kind of like a hologram.

TIS: Right.

GR: You might say that the program offers you two complete and mutually exclusive thought systems. There is a thought system in the Holy Spirit, that is about love and forgives, and also becoming love yourself with your experience, and how you appear at others, that may naturally lead to you treating others with love. Then you have the ego thought system, that is all about judgment and condemnation. The Course says you can only do a couple of things. It says, "He who not forgive, must judge, for he has to justify his failure to forgive". So if you are not planning to forgive someone, then you've got to generate up an entire story about why they are certainly not merit your forgiveness, and yes it would take much less time only to forgive them.

Among the other activities I really like in regards to the Course would it be actually provides you with a method home, a method because of this mess. That's not me saying you should not have fun with this if you are here, it is just how the body's temporary, you won't last. People think it is quite valuable, so how valuable can something be if it is temporary and it is not going to last? The good thing technology-not only for is always to learn and communicate, and share the facts with individuals. Now you ask, how are things planning to utilize time you are here. A couple of times this course asks what exactly is it for, regarding what you're seeing... the facts for? Well, it's for forgiveness because by forgiving, you undo the ego as well as your experience can change, and it is a greater experience. It really is better to be a spirit than the usual body. It's preferable to be a butterfly when compared to a caterpillar, it's actually a less restricted life form and a top quality of life. It's rather a win-win situation.

You may still have your daily life and pretend that you're a doctor, or even a racecar driver, or do what I do, and pretend you might be a spiritual teacher and go worldwide and talk to people. My teachers Arten and Pursah explained it does not matter what I do, my real job is forgiveness and everything else is simply cover job. The forgiveness opportunities will come up for those, and they also appear in numerous forms. The Course says that the right lesson is usually till you, though this can be seldom recognized. So it is no mystery that which you are designed to forgive, that is whatever is right before that person. These are lessons that the Holy Spirit wants one to learn, and forgive.

It isn't really always fun since this is a world of duality. You're going to have both fun times and bad while you're here. There isn't any escaping that since this is a world of opposites. So there is going to be times where you'll have to forgive, and instances when you will not, as you're enjoying yourself which enable it to just "celebrate" as the Course says. ACIM is often a happy form of spirituality. It covers the happy dream and like a happy learner. One of the ten characteristics of the teacher of God is joy. Which means this 's no suffering, morose way of spirituality. It isn't really even a religion. ACIM is often a self-study course. It's done between you and the Holy Spirit otherwise you and Jesus, or whatever you'd like to think of it as. Jesus is the teacher from the Course. He speaks in first person and it's really clear it had become given by him. Making this a pleasant way of spirituality, and it is changing exactly how people consider the historical Jesus.

I'm thrilled to note that nowadays that whenever you go into Unity Churches, or you stop by to my place, there exists a drawings and paintings of Jesus, and he's laughing and smiling, that is certainly the way he to be real. He wasn't some suffering, unhappy guy. He previously feeling of humor anf the husband was married to Mary Magdalene. He had normal relationships, and friends and so they partied after they wanted too. They'd visit a wedding celebration which could last 21 days because this is the way things were in those days. I think you have a better look at what life was like during the time Jesus lived by reading the existing Testament, greater than you do reading the modern Testament because that is what it was like. You read things like Solomon and pretty racy stuff. There are many sexual things mentioned. The stuff about being puritans and goody two shoes came after Jesus. This hadn't have something to employ what life was like when he was running around. All the was developed up by the church given that they wanted comprise a religion plus they did.

What it's all about of Jesus got completely lost and turned into its opposite, the message of suffering and sacrifice, which is not what he was about in any way. He was ready the end of suffering and sacrifice. Probably the best illustration is the fact he couldn't feel any pain after his life. As ACIM puts it, the guiltless mind cannot suffer, and Jesus' mind was completely healed by the Holy Spirit, so he had no guilt in their mind, which meant that he couldn't suffer, which meant that he couldn't feel any pain. So this whole idea that somehow he suffered and sacrificed himself for our sins is not about him. It is a constructed theology through the apostle Paul. In reality, it's Paul's theology, which is the foundation of Christianity. It isn't in line with the teachings of Jesus.

So here you do have a Jesus who could forgive anybody, even when these were killing him, but nowadays there is an "Christians" who can't forgive people who have done nothing to them? There exists a contradiction here. It's a convoluted sort of Jesus. I think one of the reasons my books, and ACIM did very well, and i think continuously, because Course will be around for the thousand years, happens because at the end of the afternoon it seems sensible. It's actually a complete thought system. It all fits together and is also determined by love and forgiveness.

In case you take a look at many of the old Greek texts, from the beginning of Christianity, they utilized to say (in connection with early Christians), "you'll know them by their love". The original meaning of the word "repent" in Greek is all about an alteration of mind. It is not about cleaning your respond to the amount of the world. It is certainly at the degree of your brain resulting in a big change of mind. Which was the first idea, given that they did get a number of what Jesus was saying at the time. ACIM 's all done with the level of the mind, because this is the a higher level cause, and also the world is only the effect. I'm not really saying that you simply can't contain it, and revel in it, but following the morning it's actually a temporary experience.

It's just what the Buddhist's call impermanence, and because it's impermanent and temporary, you can not find any permanent satisfaction or happiness there. It's really possible to find permanent happiness in changing your appearance with the world though, which again is why the program says, "seek never to alter the world, seek rather to change your mind regarding the world". If you accomplish that you will end up dealing with the level of cause rather than effect, which is essential.

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