John, better than any other Team Rubber Chicken member, adheres to the "no training" rule. And this was John's first Cycle Oregon since back surgery several years ago. So it's quite amazing and admirable that John didn't break the "no sagging" rule, given the sometimes grueling test of endurance that this year's route presented. If/when I again "do" Cycle Oregon, I need to follow John's advice to slow down and enjoy the ride.