Okay, I've seen these guys a number of time now, and I'm impressed. First by their personalities and down to earth nature. You'd be hard pressed to find people more agreeable. Secondly, their ability. I've witnessed it enough time to understand the deliberate nature of their music. If that doen't make sense to you, well... I'm not sure I can really help you there. They really are very good. Do yourself a favor, roll one and check them out. For their site go here: http://www.growingsound.com/