I found a technique in the magazines so I decided to try it out. CS2 is a real pain in the a$$ sometimes because you know what you want to do and it takes a long time to figure out how to do it. I remember when I first started started using Lotus 123 (we are talking ancient times here), I knew what I wanted to do but I didn't know what things were called and didn't know how to find it in the manual. Frustrating. My experience with CS2 is similar. It is fun, but frustrating.