Rehab by Jen Bixler

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18-JUL-2007

Rehab

By Amy Winehouse

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

I'd rather be at home with ray
I ain't got seventy days
Cause there's nothing
There's nothing you can teach me
That I can't learn from Mr Hathaway

I didn't get a lot in class
But I know it don't come in a shot glass

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

The man said 'why do you think you here'
I said 'I got no idea
I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my baby
so I always keep a bottle near'
He said 'I just think your depressed,
kiss me here baby and go rest'

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

I don't ever wanna drink again
I just ooh I just need a friend
I'm not gonna spend ten weeks
have everyone think I'm on the mend

It's not just my pride
It's just 'til these tears have dried...

I am outta here for my own kind of rehab....
Fun in the sun...
Catch up soon...

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Matylda Lempel-Chareza Photography 11-Jul-2008 21:23
the image is wonderful,dramatic with high key

Coleen Perilloux Landry 11-Jul-2008 01:17
Merciful heavens---and I only saw it as a fun photo. What is the matter with me?

carol j. phipps 10-Jul-2008 02:17
As always, a superb combination of image and word ~ Keep on keeping on! Carol

Bill Gallagher 09-Jul-2008 23:16
I am so sorry that I missed this last year. I just love when somebody puts up a shot that provokes so much emotion on pbase.
Thanks Dan for reviving this image.

J. Scott Coile 09-Jul-2008 19:42
I finally went back and took a look from beginning to end. What a mess. Did you ever figure out who the inquisition warrior (ie. "GUEST") was??? There goes my lunch break and then some ;-)

virginiacoastline 31-Jul-2007 00:47
I'm guessing here, but "guest" sounds female to me; she also sounds pained - by that I mean she's hurting inside. She apparently has first-hand knowledge of living with or knowing an alcoholic. I't sounds like someone very close to her.

Maybe it was her parent who she had to watch flail against in unbearable foe. Maybe she watched a sibling sink into oblivion, or worse, her own mate . . . and sadly her children had to witness the demise. Maybe she is deailing with it herself and sees this as some horrible reminder of what she is up against.

She sounds frustrated with her apparent inability to make things right with her world. The lashing out against the other Pbasers just, to me, sounds defensive. And unhappy. I don't think she wants pity. I think she felt some sort of connection to you, Jen, and for whatever reason - maybe she has been comparing herself to you - this picture, then, suddenly brought her back to an unhappy reality and she felt the need to express that.
I think it went too far . . . I don't think she meant to upset or anger anyone. I think she just needed to talk

But what the heck DO I KNOW (LOL!) . . . . .I'm just a regular old foto-shooting PBaser buddy =))))

Jen Bixler 29-Jul-2007 21:25
Dear "guest"....I hide your last comment. It is one thing to attack me but you will not attack my Mom. You have taken this to another level....the term "libel" comes to mind. Go do something else with your time at this point. You are done here and no longer welcome.

Deborah Lewis 29-Jul-2007 14:35
WOW, Jen you were right – it did take almost an hour to read the comments and check out the pings!

First I would like to thank everyone here who supported Jen on this, it really means a lot to me.

Secondly, I wish “Guest” would identify her/himself to me – I would like to send you a few books, starting with “Miss Manners' Guide to Excruciatingly Correct Behavior” By Judith Martin. Being the self-righteous person that you appear to be, I’m surprised your parents didn’t teach you “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”. Your comments remind me of the “big bully” on the playground, big talk as long as you are hiding behind your mother’s skirt. In this case, the “guest” sign-on. Also I would send you a few books on art interpretation, but maybe this definition will help you out since you don’t have a clue:
(Interpret and interpretation - Interpretation is a stage in the work of art following the describing and analyzing of an artwork, in which one identifies the work's expressive qualities, or the meaning, or the mood, or idea communicated to the viewer.
A work of art can be very complicated and may be interpreted in different ways by different people. In art criticism, one's interpretation of a work is personal, based upon the information one has gathered from the work. In art history, interpretation identifies the influences of time and place on the artist: images of the same subject, created at different times or in different locations may have little in common. Their differences reflect the contrasting personal and cultural traditions and values of each artist.)

Now, that being said – Jen this is an awesome image and a BIG VOTE from me. Love, mom

We have a viewing to go to today, so I will try to catch up with everyone next week – what a way to end a wonderful vacation!

beverley harrison 25-Jul-2007 18:29
hi jen....wow how come when i go away all the fun stuff happens!! lol...well the guest got more than they bargained for when they picked on you, see, cos you're OUR jen and we luv ya!! and this image and song totally rocks!! good on yer babe!! now kick off those flip flops...sit back and have a JD with me!! :))

EMangl 25-Jul-2007 18:03
i never care about it what boneless anonymous freaks write - someone who logs out to write a comment must have major problems themself

Guest 25-Jul-2007 00:11
Go Jen my Truly friend:-)))))))))))))))

Guest 24-Jul-2007 17:09
I have yet to catch up with Thursday's challenge.. problems with internet etc.. I can't believe all the controversy over this shot!!! a GREAT SHOT!!! Yes maybe it is a bit graphic ... that is what makes it a great interpretation of the song and entry for the challenge!! As for the outrageous comments about having regard for your daughter .... NEVER let anyone make you think you are a bad Mom, harmful images are everywhere! Hopefully this will show her the dangers of alcohol not the 'glamour' of drunkeness as she will see from Hollywood celebs who should know better!

Guest 24-Jul-2007 00:46
HEY !!! Only I can call my friends "MORON".:) ...."Guest" please stop commenting here it is no longer needed. If you want attention than come and comment on my gallery.....Jen and my Pbase family have done nothing to you....BRING IT ON!!!

Guest 23-Jul-2007 17:53
Hmmmmm - "Guest" might have some real reasons for having issues with alcohol and its downsides but, having said that, this image neither glamorises alcohol, nor is the photographer "flaunting her body". And the way you have extended your personal attack to other talented and respected members of Pbase for daring to give positive comment is just cheap.

As for the image - I'm not a fan of linking my own images with other people's lyrics. However, that aside, its an excellent shot well processed that tells a story, and conveys raw emotion, and congratulations must go to the photographer for that.

Guest 23-Jul-2007 17:37
Wonderful take on this challenge, and a perfect way to act out this song! Sorry that "guests" can't see it for art and a wonderful shot! Keep rock it out!! v

Martha Albuquerque 23-Jul-2007 13:28
http://www.pbase.com/image/82690856

We all love ya, Jen!
Freedom, we say! To express art, photos and life.. maybe this 'guest' needs to get A LIFE instead..

Martha

mojoflowerchick 23-Jul-2007 11:41
Glamorous? NO.. make you think?? YES.. i believe that you have succeeded.. wonderful job.. i think this shot has DEFF got everyone thinking.. i applaud you..

Guest 23-Jul-2007 11:23
Wow, this sounds like a real discussion! Like the photo, it's full of emotion. Good on you for posting it.

dane 23-Jul-2007 03:19
My turn to "glamorize alcoholism"... Where's that little monkey boy, formally known as "Guest"? E-mail me you gutless wimp.

http://www.pbase.com/image/80157536

R. Walls 23-Jul-2007 01:46
Rehab is such a lonely place. Maybe I need to join y'all.......

http://www.pbase.com/image/82663085

Linda Willets 22-Jul-2007 23:49
WOW.. just saw this in the forum. Excellent job.. photography is about art.. doesn't mean everyone will see it in the same way.. it is terrible to attack someone for their work..art is about feelings.. if we don't like a photo we don't have to look or comment..pbase has always been such a supportive group.. reason I love it here. Keep up the great work, Jen.

Carole Stevens 22-Jul-2007 21:40
Amazing work you are such a talented photographer and you are an fantastic Mum and a friend to many even us who haven't met you.
We know this image is a perfect interpretation of Amy and this song, proving what a talented and creative photographer you are, everyone in their right mind knows it has no recollection on you as a person!
Someone who has to snipe at others is gutless not even to own up to their email; and then to aim at others who support Jen is just plain malicious and childish and sick especially when there are the children of these wonderfully creative people who look at this!
Proving guest that your not standing by your original statements!
Well Guest, Jen is supported by all her PBase family and if you don't like it, don't look on this site thats common sense!

glimpses by lu 22-Jul-2007 16:31
This an amazing photograph!!! You have captured the true essence of the song and also of an alcoholic!! I know...I have 19 years sobriety!! This is an very moving and so very real capture of what us alcoholics do!!!!!!!!! Be very proud!!! I became sober on Mothers Day in 1988! (after 17 years) My daughter was with me on the first day and experieced first hand what it was like to live with an alcoholic and celebrate every "one day at a time" with me throughout my recovery process!!! There is no better feeling than having a child experiece the realness of life itself. From the deepness of my hell to my daily celebration of life after alcohol. We are able to celebrate Mothers day together with love and happiness!! I stand applauding you in your talent and expression of life through photography!!! Keep up the excellent work and I know that your daughter is so proud of you in all you do!!! peace always.......lu

Guest 22-Jul-2007 15:20
Not sure I see glamour, a thought provoking image which for me reminds me how for some alcohol can be a demon. Perhaps it is my personal family experience (it was my mothers demise) but when I look at this image it reminds me of the how some fall into the grip of drugs and alcohol.

Kate Walls 22-Jul-2007 14:46
I checked out the song yesterday (compliments of Dan) - keeps playing in my head. Catchy tune or is it a "sign" that I should consider rehab? But I say "no, no, no"
Thanks Jen for turning me on to another artist, Amy Winehouse.

Guest 22-Jul-2007 14:05
This is how we treat unwelcome guests in South Wales,Enjoy.Hope your holiday is going well Jen:-) Ade :-)

<http://www.pbase.com/image/82597345

j>a>e>17 :):):) 22-Jul-2007 11:56
always & in all ways belt out YOUR cherished songs of YOUR unique visions of life... :):):) ROCK ON DUDETTE JAZZY JEN :):):)

Dave Hein 22-Jul-2007 06:18
Small minds are much distressed by little things. Great minds see them all but are not upset by them. Francois de La Rochefoucauld - French author & moralist (1613 - 1680). It's clear which camp "guest" is in.

RALPH ELDRIDGE 22-Jul-2007 06:11
"Glamorizing alcoholism is not pretty"? Guest needs a dictionary. There is nothing "alluring" or "charming" or "attractive" in this image. Now a glittering cocktail party with everybody dressed to the nines and sipping fancy drinks; that might create a facination or delusion.

I don't especially like this photo. There are several reasons, but mainly the lighting.
However, as a PORTRAYAL of the idea behind Amy's song, I think it's very realistic.

And for the benifit of the ignorant, cowardly and ignoble lurkers: "portray" means to depict, picture, show, act, perform or to represent with images. The word comes from the latin "protrahere", meaning "to draw out".
I think that you have been successful on all counts, Jennifer. Keep doing what you enjoy.

noearlybird 22-Jul-2007 04:02
Dan is a "lechorous"womanizer? Oh no:0) Interpreting a song is all it's about, I thought. Kathie

Lee G 22-Jul-2007 03:34
Well, as long as "gueat" is outing the pbase underworld.. I'm coming clean along with my pbase buddies. You'll have to figure who's who as I don't kiss and tell!
http://www.pbase.com/surfnmoto2/image/79964779
And yes "guest" I know I'm a pig and my stuff sucks.
Leesa

GUEST 22-Jul-2007 03:27
and you third side you are a moron.

Michael Morrow 22-Jul-2007 03:03
Hate the song...love the photo.

The Third Side 22-Jul-2007 02:56
Oops. Call me a moron.

http://www.pbase.com/fromtheheart/image/62085959

:-P

The Third Side 22-Jul-2007 02:52
Okay, I'm feeling quite slighted here, GUEST. You didn't mention ME in your diatribe.

http://www.pbase.com/update_image/62085959

Guest 22-Jul-2007 02:17
Thanks to all who have commented in support of Jen, much more eloquently than I could. I've never met her, unfortunately. However, if you pay attention to ALL her galleries, not just one photo, in one gallery, you will observe this---Jen involves her daughter in photography by allowing her to be creative and to take her own shots (some great ones, by the way) and even post them as a gallery. She also has arranged for her daughter to take art classes. By example and by having opportunities to express herself, her daughter is learning--every day-the difference between "reality" and creative expression. Every child should be so fortunate. I've gone back and studied the photo which caused this continuing and important dialog, and I still see it as one of the most anti-alcohol images I've ever seen. Bravo, Jen. P.S. I hope you are having a great vacation. Will be anxious to see the resulting gallery.

FrankB 22-Jul-2007 02:16
I don't know who Amy is....but this image silences any criticism.....I think this is as good as I have ever seen...stuff with Warhol....Mapplethorpe.....V

FairEnigma 22-Jul-2007 00:42
Jen...this is beautifully done. It is one of the most powerful representational interpretations of lyrics that I've seen in a very long time. It reminds me of my baby sister who is a very dysfunctional alcoholic (currently in rehab) I pray for her everyday because every day she may wake up dead. We have strong reactions to things that hit close to home and I think that's where the nameless judgemental one is coming from. Keep doing what you do so well....this IS Art...and Art is not always pretty but it makes us feel and if it's powerful it opens up a whole rainbow of conversation and that's what your interpretation of the song has done. I wish I could vote for this more than once!

Robbie D70 21-Jul-2007 23:55
WOW ! a very powerful and thought provoking image , no doubt one of your very best artistically and profoundly. I dont think for one moment this is glamourising, more like opening up a debate as it has done on alcohol. From my knowledge of you as a person on
p base, you seem a very loving mother and woman, with no intention of hurting anyone.
A personal message would of been a better method and not using the
"Guest cloaking device"

Some pictures in life are very strong and will offend others, some pictures will please and even inspire others. I dont like all the pictures I see on p base, far from it!
and I wont praise up pictures falsely as so many do here on p base galleries.
But censorship is a difficult area apart from the obvious.
Each of us has his or her own set of standards. I would like to think of pbase as a place for artistic and photographic skills to be displayed and recognised.
The picture in question is powerful and emotive because its good.

Pic Chick 21-Jul-2007 22:38
This reminds me of my favorite magazine: http://www.pbase.com/picchick/image/82591174

JW 21-Jul-2007 20:15
Just wanted to lend my belated support to you, Jen! And isn't it ironic that Amy wrote this song because her father thought she was an alcoholic and wanted her to go to rehab, when in fact she knew she had depression!!

Faye White 21-Jul-2007 19:56
wonderful image Jen - you did a terrific job of portraying the lyrics!

royalld 21-Jul-2007 17:17
It looks like am late to this party...
I agree with R. Walls, "One way to guarantee problems for our children is to shelter them from reality."
This composition, concept, and treatment is awesome.
I applaud you Jen, for moderating this thread with such high decorum... I would not have been very civil with "Guest".

Guest 21-Jul-2007 17:07
Jen ,it has all been said before!That is a stunning image,brilliantly executed,a real work of art!V

Jola Dziubinska 21-Jul-2007 15:32
Jen, here is my bravo to you. Your interpretation of the song is powerful, greatly presented and artisticly perfect.
Jola

P.S. I know such "guest" pretty well ;)

Guest 21-Jul-2007 15:29
Maybe I should delete this picture with the Foul Fellow. I think it could be interpreted as negative and promoting violence.
http://www.pbase.com/jmantheiy/image/58037853

Guest 21-Jul-2007 15:27
PING!
http://www.pbase.com/image/82571902

Guest 21-Jul-2007 15:10
Oh, by the way "guest," you aren't really that. So, why don't you get lost. Here's to you sis:
PING:
http://www.pbase.com/image/82570816

Guest 21-Jul-2007 15:08
"Guest," I am not surprised at your ignorance. First of all, anyone who attacks any of the artists on this site, should find something else to do with their abundance of free time. If you feel so strongly about the issues of alcoholism, then do something productive to help the problem itself. Lashing out at a family of artists who express not only themselves, but sometimes music, world issues, etc. through beautiful pictures is actually giving us more drive and creativity. So, in some weird way, thank you. We are laughing at your stupidity.
You clearly don't know a thing about my sister's parenting skills. I know first hand that she is the best mother I have ever known. I deal with people like you all of the time. You are so unhappy in your own life that you have to try and spread it to others. Misery loves company. Well, good luck on here. You are going to feel more alone than ever. No one else on here is miserable like you. ART, you should read a book on it. Educate yourself before go making stupid comments.

Guest 21-Jul-2007 14:30
Incredible! V

ifotog 21-Jul-2007 14:18
Damn - missing link:http://www.pbase.com/image/82568266

ifotog 21-Jul-2007 14:17
Dear Guest,

Music is also a bad influence:

Pink Floyd from "The Wall"

Take the time and responsibility to actually parent your children instead of expecting the world to do it for you. Then you can be sure that they will at least make their own decisions about what is right and wrong or glamorous and "not so".

11051912 21-Jul-2007 13:16
a language I understand, nice shot

as far as "guest"
I always leave the negative comments but never respond to them. Why should I?
An artist is not creating art for anyone other than themselves. Unless of course, you
are getting paid. Keep on snapping!!

It's been so long...green or black?

Lee Rudd 21-Jul-2007 13:02
wonderfully gritty and oh so brave image... well done!

Guest 21-Jul-2007 12:28
hardcore and gritty - V an excellent interpretation of the song -

Guest 21-Jul-2007 12:23
I don't see anything wrong with this image.
You are one of the best artist that pbase got.
Just continue with what you are doing Jen.
I love it!

Eckhart Derschmidt 21-Jul-2007 12:01
Looks like a rehab would not help here....
Very strong image!
To all the self-proclaimed moralists: You suck!

Guest 21-Jul-2007 10:52
Hey Jen!
I just saw your image (a great one!;) and read this story..
.. i don't comment much, but you are on my fav and I like a lot to follow what you do.. As some others said you are a beautiful person, and for what I saw you are a great mom..
Actualy, this kind of attack is in the 'air of time'.. a kind of "Bushy-mind", reactionary.. I will not surprised if he/she propose you a religious way of living "right" (and beside that I'm sure like a comment said it that he/she have some big hidden problems with him/herself) but he more pity thing is that this brave person didn't really attack you on the alcoolism but because he/she saw some glamour in it.. what disturb this closed mind is not the violence of the act but that its, to his/her eyes, sexy and because you did it publicly... it sure that to drink with an hot winter coat and hidden in a closed room is much better: noboby can see you and the world can be as light as it should be...... its so stupid that it doesn't need too much words: it gives importance to this poor mind.. but all you friends are here, and that's great.
Take care and keep cool!;)
Best Regards
GB.

Maaike Huizer 21-Jul-2007 10:51
Great work from both Dan and you. V

Dave Wixx 21-Jul-2007 09:10
"Save yourself before its too late." - Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if they know Haggard?

Gary Winters 21-Jul-2007 08:58
I just discovered this image. It's powerful, it's provocative, it is gutsy. From time to time, I post an image that represents something a bit darker than the usual fare (and I'm not knocking the usual fare!). I find I get fewer comments, although similar hit counts. Art cannot always be about the good times, the sunshine, and happy times.

You've done a great job with this photo; the spineless guest is saying volumes about him or herself, and has nothing to add to a discussion on your photo. Bravo, Jennifer, you rock!

Barbara Heide 21-Jul-2007 08:40
Jen, fantastic image! Don't bother with "guest"...keep on rocking!!! big vote

Dave Wixx 21-Jul-2007 08:38
Guest - wake and smell the coffee. Guess what, life isn't fluffy clouds and pretty flowers. Look around you - how many liquor stores are in your neighbourhood, that should give you a clue about how wide spread the issue is. Pictures like this emphasize the issue not glorify it.

Dan Chusid 21-Jul-2007 08:03
The Devil made me do it:
http://www.pbase.com/image/82560621
(You can see and listen to the original here too)
Oh the souls we're gonna be messing up...

Jim Larkin 21-Jul-2007 05:51
Dang it.
pinghttp://www.pbase.com/jjlarkin39/image/82558663

Jim Larkin 21-Jul-2007 05:51
http://www.pbase.com/jjlarkin39/image/82558663

Pic Chick 21-Jul-2007 02:03
Wow! I'm a tranny? I had no idea. I guess I better stop pretending...this cracks me up. If this person knew ANY of those he/she has condemned, they would know we are none of these things. Guess I have to go dress in drag now....

P.S. If this person had any balls themselves, they would tell us who they are. But they are obvious cowards and we will never know. Pity, I would love for them to see what I actually look like...they'd probably be either jealous or want me...freak ;)

R. Walls 21-Jul-2007 00:51
One way to guarantee problems for our children is to shelter them from reality. Just this week my 7 year old lost her riding instructor because she was charged with 4 felony counts of possession. Never would have expected it from such a sweet young girl but that's reality. As unpleasant as this may be, my daughter has learned at an early age that drug use has dire consequences. Is this something I wanted my daughter to experience? No way BUT down the road when tempted by peers, I hope she remembers what happened to her mentor. I have no idea how anyone can say that this image glamorizes alcohol. If anything, it shows the negative side of alcohol and if anything, would discourage use. In all honesty, I'd rather my daughter see this image than read the hateful words of the "Guest." My father always said to me when I was growing up "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." Wise words for all to follow. In photography we take images we see, not reflections of ourselves. If anything, critique the work for it's technical merit or artistic value but NEVER attack the photographer personally and associate their work with who they are. I've met Jen and admire the parent she is. I wish I was as dedicated to my daughters as she is to hers. I'd be a much better parent if I was. Jen, I made an earlier comment that you have just passed over from a simple taker of photographs to a true artist. The reaction this has generates solidifies that comment. You made us think. We all should have that power.

Cindi Smith 21-Jul-2007 00:45
I have to say this, I missed this shot yesterday and have to comment on everything going on and the attack on you, Jen. Now, to Guest: I know Jen personally and never, ever has she behaved in a manner not becoming to her. She is a fabulous Mom and young woman and this image is a composition, a piece of art and a portrayal of a song. Whether someone likes it or not, it does not represent Jen the person. It is a picture of what happens to a lot of people and will definately hit home to some. As far as the comment on encouragement for our children, yes, this should encourage them not to drink to excess. I don't think it glamorizes drinking at all. What about the images of the homeless and the other images of how life can be cruel....are those not negative shots? Do you attack those who post them? Those are real life images and are disturbing but it makes you think about others who just don't have the peaches and cream lives. This image could be anyone, anywhere. Jen just decided to use herself as the model. I think she got a message across and it isn't glamorizing alcoholism. You can't hide what is out there and unfortunately, our children will have to deal with all these issues one day. I was brought up to treat others with love and compassion, not with hate and I feel that the way that you, Guest, handled this was totally inappropriate. Life is not always beautiful and fun and we must realize that good can come out of art such as this. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you could have just sent private messages, not posting for everyone to see and trying to belittle Jen. That is a deliberate attack and is mean. Of course, those that know Jen will step up to protect her. That is what friends are for. So, with that said, I will shut up. Now, I dare you to attack me!

Ray :) 21-Jul-2007 00:31
Jen - I just want to say publicly what I told you privately - that this one of your best images to date. Not sure why I didn't tell the world that in the first place :) This image certainly underlines your maturity as an artist.
Now enjoy the rest of your holiday!

Guest 20-Jul-2007 23:43
I don't know you, but you and Dan and many others I just love as people and how you capture life. "Guests" are just what they are the bad with every good. Keep being true to yourself!!

Guest 20-Jul-2007 23:41
Great photographic interpretation a the song, Jen!
Ignore "Guests" who don have the courage ta identify thereselfs
(probly someone closely connected ta drink problems)
Me - ah don have a problem. Get drunk, talk shit, fall over - no problem!
Mike ;o)

Jen Bixler 20-Jul-2007 23:34
ps~
Thanks to my pbase family for having open minds and open hearts. I appreciate your candor and support.

Jen Bixler 20-Jul-2007 23:32
Being at the start of my vacation and having limited Internet access, I find it interesting to sign in to all of these comments. Dear "Guest"...it is one thing to critique my images and it is one thing to attack ME....BUT you crossed a line when you HIDE and attack MY friends whom I love dearly. NOT one of your titles that you have given to these talented photographers is accurate.
BTW, this is now my profile picture ;o)))

Kate Walls 20-Jul-2007 23:22
Jen - Consider yourself successful! You have achieved EXACTLY what the purpose of "art" is, as well as what it does to one's soul......and that is.....to stir up deep emotion........

JSWaters 20-Jul-2007 22:51
Neither the image nor Jen needs any defending from me - I've already given her the congratulations she deserves. I find the assertion that you 'managed to turn the issue' so ludicrous it's beneath acknowledgement. I won't even dignify the personal attacks on other pbaser's by entertaining them. It's not an easy thing to portray yourself in a less than flattering image, especially for women as we're expected to always look our 'best'. I guess there's a danger in a cyber community such as this of deluding ourselves into thinking we may 'know' our fellow photographers well by virtue of viewing their work everyday - and maybe that's the root of guest's problem here. One thing is clear, the people whom Jen communicates with and relates to, as witnessed by the comments, obviously know more about her.
Jenene

Dan Chusid 20-Jul-2007 22:31
My Aunt relays a big hello to 'guest':
http://www.pbase.com/camera0bug/image/43218666

Guest 20-Jul-2007 22:14
<http://www.pbase.com/mescaleroman/image/82545103

go on guest u know you want one,mmmmmmm curvy,cold,wet and mmmmm hits the spot

Guest 20-Jul-2007 21:47
NEWFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the first image of the pbase guest has been released F****** Hell its not human:-)Great shot Andreas

<http://www.pbase.com/image/82542976

ifotog 20-Jul-2007 21:36
Jen - I really like the image. It's very well shot and processed to invoke an immediate emotion - though "glamorizing alcoholism" is not an impression that I would have gotten out of this one :)

Guest 20-Jul-2007 21:35
and we'll all know where to stick that bottle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-)sideways:-)

Guest 20-Jul-2007 21:18
Haha! Love your last line Dan! Pretty cowardly how "Guest" likes to anonymously blast fellow members of the Pbase family. I don't believe Jen's image here has anything to do about a womans body. Maybe if you, "Guest", weren't the pervert you claim everyone else on her to be, you'd be able to focus more on the story the photo tells instead of the skin. And who cares if the majority of us commenting on her photo are guys. What?...guys aren't supposed to be photographers and critique their friend's work? Grow up.

Guest 20-Jul-2007 21:11
After my personal attack on the voting system and a certain duck a while back I received many many malicious Guest comments even on my daughter who read the comments,so well done to all the malicious gutless guests,I dont mind being attacked but with someone without a name is soooooooo childish and spineless.Im lucky enough to have jen as a friend and she is a wonderful person,and the thing that strikes me about Jen is that she is an incredible mother.Her and Aud do everything together,Aud will love this shot as shes a bit of an artiste herself.so come on show yourself so we can discuss this like adults.

Guest 20-Jul-2007 20:54
As Im so sickening "Guest"

GO F*** YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ray :) 20-Jul-2007 20:48
Dear 'Guest', or maybe that should read "Dear Unwanted Guest"
Just want to say that I'd just love you to point us to your pictures. Come on, I dare you.

Dan Chusid 20-Jul-2007 20:46
Perhaps 'guest' would be more comfortable with images like this one:
http://www.pbase.com/dreamndigital/image/82502664

Or perhaps 'guest' might be happier sticking to the bugs, birds and
flower pictures instead of following around (and attacking) the pbasers
he/she has mentioned below, who all happen to post images that make
the viewers here THINK from time to time (and who YOU obviously don't
know on a personal level). Attacking people verbally from behind a wall
smacks of childishness.

On second thought, 'guest' just might need a drink of that Jack Daniels.

Tell us who you are and we'll send you a bottle.
; )

Guest 20-Jul-2007 20:08
Well done for managing to turn the issue Jen,the majority of commentors are male and you flaunting your body and glamorising alcohol puts you down in the gutter with the other low lifers that are rock bottom due to the drink and unwanted children.Im so dissapointed with you. Some of the people whove commented here are of little social value themselves,Pic Chick (a tranny),Dan Chusid(a lechorous womanizer),Petem and Adrian Reilly whos images are often sickening and the pervert Ray who follows all the erotic content on pbase with his tongue hanging out.Save yourself before its too late.

Patricia Lay-Dorsey 20-Jul-2007 18:26
Yes, you've created a disturbing image here, but one that is powerful, real & marvelously executed. The lyrics fit it to a T. I've had my own encounters with unpleasant comments posted by anonymous "guests." For that reason I have chosen to activate the Pbase preference of having guest comments only posted publicly after I've checked & approved them first. Most of us are fine with constructive criticism of an artistic type, but personal attacks are never OK.

Jen, I have my friend Jim Larkin to thank for sending me over here, and I'm glad he did. I'll be back. You're a compelling artist, one I want to continue to follow.

Guest 20-Jul-2007 16:55
This is a powerful image Jen and you captured the emotion involved with this type of thing with precision! It is by far my most favorite of your work. Props to the black and white...so proud! haha

As far as the guest's comment. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you certainly do not need to attack Jen because of your dislike for this image. It is uncalled for and very unprofessional. Part of photography is capturing emotion, which Jen has done a superb job with in this image. Sometimes the feelings felt from an image are painful as with this, and sometimes they are images of happiness. To expect and restrict a photographer to only portray the happier moments in life is not right. There are times when we all feel overwhelmed with sadness in life and sometimes it reflects in our work as it has in mine. Goes the same for the happier times in life.

Once again, terrific job here Jen. It's a great shot, and I'm proud of you for it!

Jim Larkin 20-Jul-2007 16:53
Wow...I'm not sure what to say. I run into people like "Guest" all the time. People that want to live with their heads in the sand and who refuse to believe that the whole world isn't pretty all the time. I really hope that "Guest" isn't someone I know and have came to respect because all of that respect will be lost once I found out they launch unfounded attacks while making themselves annonomous. I don't accept guest comments for this very reason. If you put an email address I will never delete a comment but hiding behind the "guest" name is very small.

A very good friend of mine, on Pbase, is Patricia Lay-Dorsey. Patricia had a problem with one of my pictures,http://www.pbase.com/jjlarkin39/image/72984808 ,but reponded in such a way that we became friends through it. Have the courage to stand up for yourself, with your name, and discuss why you don't like the picture. Don't hide behind "guest" and attack Jen personally. Weak.

I think the picture rocks. Yeah, alcoholism isn't pretty, but neither are a lot of things in this world that get brushed under the rug. Sweet shot, great song choice, and well executed. Keep them coming Jen, you're awesome. You only need to worry about people with names. ;)

Guest 20-Jul-2007 16:26
wow.

Kinda cool to see such a discussion on pbase. Though I hate the GUEST hiding.

Do you think all music videos are real or just interpretations of songs? Every kind of artist interprets things. I give Jen a ton of credit for constantly trying to portray emotion in her work. Sometimes it's the happiest images, other it's sad and lonely, but one thing is consistent, that her work is from her heart. And another thing is that we clearly can see she loves her daughter.

I wonder who the guest is...and if she protrays herself realistically in her work...or if she gaussian blurs the hell out of herself.

Guest 20-Jul-2007 15:35
"Guest" - Art is not necessarily pretty. In fact most great art invokes some sort of emotion from the viewer, whether positive or negative, It was obviously negative for you, and you are entitled to your opinion, but it shouldn't be an attack on Jen personally. Cheers.

Guest 20-Jul-2007 09:33
Ive had enough of Gutless Guests and malicious comments Jen,
thats why I hide my comments,Sad but True
this is a brilliantly creative image.Its great to create and escape.
As you a great friend of mine Jen I can tell GUEST what a wonderful Mum you are.
Put a name to it and then debate!!!!!!!!!
VOTE

JSWaters 20-Jul-2007 05:49
Amen, Dan. You said what I was trying to. Any visual stimulates a response, and that response is directly dependent upon the context with which the viewer views said visual. Bottom line - we all bring our own 'crap' to the party -
Jenene

Dan Chusid 20-Jul-2007 05:34
I suppose "Guest" can partially blame me, since I sent you the music that you used for this.
The song happens to be a popular one and Amy Winehouse a controversal figure in the
music world these days.
In my eyes, all you've done is supply a visual to the words of the song (a very catchy song
at that) to provide your own interpretation to it. It's your art, plain and simple. Presenting it
in black and white just makes it ooze with emotion.
I think "Guest" needs to back off a bit and understand that this is your interpretive art and not
your intention to glorify alcoholism.
I wonder if anything would have been said if you were holding a beer or a mixed drink
instead of a JD bottle, but that's what makes a powerful visual for the viewer.

The bottom line?
It's up to the viewer to interpret it the way they see it, without passing judgement on
the photographer/artist.

PS: Kudos to Jen for leaving the comments up instead of deleting them. If it makes
someone else think about the subject, all the better from both sides of the issue.

Caroline 20-Jul-2007 04:43
Art is expression, interpreted one way or the other. Censorship is an empty and lazy way to rasie children. Communication, art, expression, nurturing are what matters. This pic is very cool, gritty and edgy.

(hiccup) :)

Guest 20-Jul-2007 04:15
PS...I am givin up all alcohol after seeing this shot.

shatterbug 20-Jul-2007 04:14
Excellent interpretation of the song...very cool work!

Guest 20-Jul-2007 04:10
Ok...this one dragging me out of the woodwork. Jen all I can say is that I have never met someone who is constantly striving to improve and looking in the mirror as you. That has made your photography art and you the wonderful mother I know you are.

Jen Bixler 20-Jul-2007 04:03
Anyone who knows me knows that I love my daughter more than life itself and with that said, I am still fine with interpreting songs in my way. I will not censor myself. And I pray that my daughter will grow to be well-rounded and very open minded and understand that this is not "Mommy" but Mommy "acting".

Guest 20-Jul-2007 03:56
Ummmmmm....Good grief!!! It's a great shot!

Guest 20-Jul-2007 03:48
If I don't "hide" behind the guest than you will only focus on pointing the finger. I do love your shots but this one angers me. In one way you should be flattered, b/c it makes someone feel. I just worry that you are interpreting without thought for your child.

Jen Bixler 20-Jul-2007 03:36
Thanks Jenene....btw....I was completely sober in the picture! Go figure!

JSWaters 20-Jul-2007 03:32
Jen, I saw your challenge image and thought, 'she's really growing in this medium, really putting a lot of thought into how to convey what she's got in her head' And now I see this and all I can say is 'wow', way to cross the boundaries of comfort! The connection between what we visualize and what we ultimately shoot says something about how we see ourselves as 'artists'. We (well some of us anyhow) know that's not 'you' in the image, but your interpretation of an idea, another artist's words interpreted by you. Your daughter, whether she sees this or not, will know it for exactly what it is, because you seem to be the type (and forgive me because I only sense this about you) who will explain the difference between reality and interpretation of someone else's reality.

Sorry for the length, but congrats on this image. It's very strong.
Jenene

Jen Bixler 20-Jul-2007 03:31
Obvious "guest" you are someone who knows me since you point out my daughter seeing this. What kills me is someone who has such a strong opinion but hides behind the "guest". I do view this as art and I am not ashamed of it. My daughter is being raised to have an open mind. If anyone else out there would like to address this, I am anxious to here opinions-especially from my pbase family.

Lee G 20-Jul-2007 03:15
Nice work! I say yes, yes, yes.

Guest 20-Jul-2007 03:11
Interpretation or not....do you want your daughter to see this? This is a real life problem today.....sorry you think it is just "art". I pray you will never have to face this one day.
I have lost my respect for you. You can delete this....but you will remember it. In todays world we need encouragement NOT negativity for our children.

Dave Wixx 20-Jul-2007 03:10
Another classic shot, superb.

noearlybird 20-Jul-2007 02:54
Very nice Jen! Love it. Kathie

Guest 20-Jul-2007 02:53
You got some great photos from that bottle of Jack !

Martha Albuquerque 20-Jul-2007 02:29
have fun and reab whatever you need too.. great interpretation and high key image.. you really rock, Jen.. *

The Third Side 20-Jul-2007 01:32
Well, well, I see that bottle is now nearly empty.

Not sure if I want to see the next photo in this sequence ;-)

Jen Bixler 20-Jul-2007 01:22
Ummmm "guest"...this is not all that glamorous...just me interp n Amy's words. That is it. Take it for what it is worth.

Guest 20-Jul-2007 01:21
Glamorizing alcoholism is not pretty.

Ray :) 20-Jul-2007 01:18
And while you're away you can do Sheryl Crow "Soak up the Sun" ;-)

Pic Chick 20-Jul-2007 01:16
Can u say wasted? KEWWWWWWWWWL shot girl!

Ray :) 20-Jul-2007 01:15
It's not easy to look like Amy, but you've captured her essence. A braVe, yet humorous SP, but with some seriousness too.
You have been rockin' today Jen. Now get some sun!

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Matylda Lempel-Chareza Photography		11-Jul-2008 21:23
the image is wonderful,dramatic with high key

Coleen Perilloux Landry		11-Jul-2008 01:17
Merciful heavens---and I only saw it as a fun photo. What is the matter with me?

carol j. phipps		10-Jul-2008 02:17
As always, a superb combination of image and word ~ Keep on keeping on! Carol

Bill Gallagher		09-Jul-2008 23:16
I am so sorry that I missed this last year. I just love when somebody puts up a shot that provokes so much emotion on pbase. Thanks Dan for reviving this image.

J. Scott Coile		09-Jul-2008 19:42
I finally went back and took a look from beginning to end. What a mess. Did you ever figure out who the inquisition warrior (ie. "GUEST") was??? There goes my lunch break and then some ;-)

virginiacoastline		31-Jul-2007 00:47
I'm guessing here, but "guest" sounds female to me; she also sounds pained - by that I mean she's hurting inside. She apparently has first-hand knowledge of living with or knowing an alcoholic. I't sounds like someone very close to her. Maybe it was her parent who she had to watch flail against in unbearable foe. Maybe she watched a sibling sink into oblivion, or worse, her own mate . . . and sadly her children had to witness the demise. Maybe she is deailing with it herself and sees this as some horrible reminder of what she is up against. She sounds frustrated with her apparent inability to make things right with her world. The lashing out against the other Pbasers just, to me, sounds defensive. And unhappy. I don't think she wants pity. I think she felt some sort of connection to you, Jen, and for whatever reason - maybe she has been comparing herself to you - this picture, then, suddenly brought her back to an unhappy reality and she felt the need to express that. I think it went too far . . . I don't think she meant to upset or anger anyone. I think she just needed to talk But what the heck DO I KNOW (LOL!) . . . . .I'm just a regular old foto-shooting PBaser buddy =))))

Jen Bixler		29-Jul-2007 21:25
Dear "guest"....I hide your last comment. It is one thing to attack me but you will not attack my Mom. You have taken this to another level....the term "libel" comes to mind. Go do something else with your time at this point. You are done here and no longer welcome.

Deborah Lewis		29-Jul-2007 14:35
WOW, Jen you were right – it did take almost an hour to read the comments and check out the pings! First I would like to thank everyone here who supported Jen on this, it really means a lot to me. Secondly, I wish “Guest” would identify her/himself to me – I would like to send you a few books, starting with “Miss Manners' Guide to Excruciatingly Correct Behavior” By Judith Martin. Being the self-righteous person that you appear to be, I’m surprised your parents didn’t teach you “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”. Your comments remind me of the “big bully” on the playground, big talk as long as you are hiding behind your mother’s skirt. In this case, the “guest” sign-on. Also I would send you a few books on art interpretation, but maybe this definition will help you out since you don’t have a clue: (Interpret and interpretation - Interpretation is a stage in the work of art following the describing and analyzing of an artwork, in which one identifies the work's expressive qualities, or the meaning, or the mood, or idea communicated to the viewer. A work of art can be very complicated and may be interpreted in different ways by different people. In art criticism, one's interpretation of a work is personal, based upon the information one has gathered from the work. In art history, interpretation identifies the influences of time and place on the artist: images of the same subject, created at different times or in different locations may have little in common. Their differences reflect the contrasting personal and cultural traditions and values of each artist.) Now, that being said – Jen this is an awesome image and a BIG VOTE from me. Love, mom We have a viewing to go to today, so I will try to catch up with everyone next week – what a way to end a wonderful vacation!

beverley harrison		25-Jul-2007 18:29
hi jen....wow how come when i go away all the fun stuff happens!! lol...well the guest got more than they bargained for when they picked on you, see, cos you're OUR jen and we luv ya!! and this image and song totally rocks!! good on yer babe!! now kick off those flip flops...sit back and have a JD with me!! :))

EMangl		25-Jul-2007 18:03
i never care about it what boneless anonymous freaks write - someone who logs out to write a comment must have major problems themself

Guest		25-Jul-2007 00:11
Go Jen my Truly friend:-)))))))))))))))

Guest		24-Jul-2007 17:09
I have yet to catch up with Thursday's challenge.. problems with internet etc.. I can't believe all the controversy over this shot!!! a GREAT SHOT!!! Yes maybe it is a bit graphic ... that is what makes it a great interpretation of the song and entry for the challenge!! As for the outrageous comments about having regard for your daughter .... NEVER let anyone make you think you are a bad Mom, harmful images are everywhere! Hopefully this will show her the dangers of alcohol not the 'glamour' of drunkeness as she will see from Hollywood celebs who should know better!

Guest		24-Jul-2007 00:46
HEY !!! Only I can call my friends "MORON".:) ...."Guest" please stop commenting here it is no longer needed. If you want attention than come and comment on my gallery.....Jen and my Pbase family have done nothing to you....BRING IT ON!!!

Guest		23-Jul-2007 17:53
Hmmmmm - "Guest" might have some real reasons for having issues with alcohol and its downsides but, having said that, this image neither glamorises alcohol, nor is the photographer "flaunting her body". And the way you have extended your personal attack to other talented and respected members of Pbase for daring to give positive comment is just cheap. As for the image - I'm not a fan of linking my own images with other people's lyrics. However, that aside, its an excellent shot well processed that tells a story, and conveys raw emotion, and congratulations must go to the photographer for that.

Guest		23-Jul-2007 17:37
Wonderful take on this challenge, and a perfect way to act out this song! Sorry that "guests" can't see it for art and a wonderful shot! Keep rock it out!! v

Martha Albuquerque		23-Jul-2007 13:28
http://www.pbase.com/image/82690856 We all love ya, Jen! Freedom, we say! To express art, photos and life.. maybe this 'guest' needs to get A LIFE instead.. Martha

mojoflowerchick		23-Jul-2007 11:41
Glamorous? NO.. make you think?? YES.. i believe that you have succeeded.. wonderful job.. i think this shot has DEFF got everyone thinking.. i applaud you..

Guest		23-Jul-2007 11:23
Wow, this sounds like a real discussion! Like the photo, it's full of emotion. Good on you for posting it.

dane		23-Jul-2007 03:19
My turn to "glamorize alcoholism"... Where's that little monkey boy, formally known as "Guest"? E-mail me you gutless wimp. http://www.pbase.com/image/80157536

R. Walls		23-Jul-2007 01:46
Rehab is such a lonely place. Maybe I need to join y'all....... http://www.pbase.com/image/82663085

Linda Willets		22-Jul-2007 23:49
WOW.. just saw this in the forum. Excellent job.. photography is about art.. doesn't mean everyone will see it in the same way.. it is terrible to attack someone for their work..art is about feelings.. if we don't like a photo we don't have to look or comment..pbase has always been such a supportive group.. reason I love it here. Keep up the great work, Jen.

Carole Stevens		22-Jul-2007 21:40
Amazing work you are such a talented photographer and you are an fantastic Mum and a friend to many even us who haven't met you. We know this image is a perfect interpretation of Amy and this song, proving what a talented and creative photographer you are, everyone in their right mind knows it has no recollection on you as a person! Someone who has to snipe at others is gutless not even to own up to their email; and then to aim at others who support Jen is just plain malicious and childish and sick especially when there are the children of these wonderfully creative people who look at this! Proving guest that your not standing by your original statements! Well Guest, Jen is supported by all her PBase family and if you don't like it, don't look on this site thats common sense!

glimpses by lu		22-Jul-2007 16:31
This an amazing photograph!!! You have captured the true essence of the song and also of an alcoholic!! I know...I have 19 years sobriety!! This is an very moving and so very real capture of what us alcoholics do!!!!!!!!! Be very proud!!! I became sober on Mothers Day in 1988! (after 17 years) My daughter was with me on the first day and experieced first hand what it was like to live with an alcoholic and celebrate every "one day at a time" with me throughout my recovery process!!! There is no better feeling than having a child experiece the realness of life itself. From the deepness of my hell to my daily celebration of life after alcohol. We are able to celebrate Mothers day together with love and happiness!! I stand applauding you in your talent and expression of life through photography!!! Keep up the excellent work and I know that your daughter is so proud of you in all you do!!! peace always.......lu

Guest		22-Jul-2007 15:20
Not sure I see glamour, a thought provoking image which for me reminds me how for some alcohol can be a demon. Perhaps it is my personal family experience (it was my mothers demise) but when I look at this image it reminds me of the how some fall into the grip of drugs and alcohol.

Kate Walls		22-Jul-2007 14:46
I checked out the song yesterday (compliments of Dan) - keeps playing in my head. Catchy tune or is it a "sign" that I should consider rehab? But I say "no, no, no" Thanks Jen for turning me on to another artist, Amy Winehouse.

Guest		22-Jul-2007 14:05
This is how we treat unwelcome guests in South Wales,Enjoy.Hope your holiday is going well Jen:-) Ade :-) <http://www.pbase.com/image/82597345

j>a>e>17 :):):)		22-Jul-2007 11:56
always & in all ways belt out YOUR cherished songs of YOUR unique visions of life... :):):) ROCK ON DUDETTE JAZZY JEN :):):)

Dave Hein		22-Jul-2007 06:18
Small minds are much distressed by little things. Great minds see them all but are not upset by them. Francois de La Rochefoucauld - French author & moralist (1613 - 1680). It's clear which camp "guest" is in.

RALPH ELDRIDGE		22-Jul-2007 06:11
"Glamorizing alcoholism is not pretty"? Guest needs a dictionary. There is nothing "alluring" or "charming" or "attractive" in this image. Now a glittering cocktail party with everybody dressed to the nines and sipping fancy drinks; that might create a facination or delusion. I don't especially like this photo. There are several reasons, but mainly the lighting. However, as a PORTRAYAL of the idea behind Amy's song, I think it's very realistic. And for the benifit of the ignorant, cowardly and ignoble lurkers: "portray" means to depict, picture, show, act, perform or to represent with images. The word comes from the latin "protrahere", meaning "to draw out". I think that you have been successful on all counts, Jennifer. Keep doing what you enjoy.