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Phil Douglis | all galleries >> Galleries >> Gallery Nine: Composition -- putting it together > Hmong Children, near Pak Beng, Laos, 2005
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19-JAN-2005

Hmong Children, near Pak Beng, Laos, 2005

Large groups of Hmong children greeted us in the dusty river villages along the Mekong River. I originally had composed this image as a horizontal, including eight children instead of five. It was a fragmented, diffused grouping, which had some of the children looking in different directions, and poor spacing between those at the right and left hand edges. I reorganized the image by cropping it into to a vertical format, including only this tightly integrated cluster of five children. Their positions of the hands and feet vary, yet the heads of the children on each end are higher than the others, and serve as visual “bookends.” These children have grouped themselves alongside of a log that moves us diagonally through the image. More importantly, the group has arranged itself with coherence instead of chaos. All are fascinated as they watch visiting tourists move into their small village, and all look in the same direction. The colors of their clothing relate as well – none scream for attention. The image expresses a cultural divide as well –although all of them harmonize in terms of color, some wear contemporary clothes while the others wear traditional garments. Times are changing, even in remote of Laotian river villages. The only thing I did to organize this image for coherence and meaning – was to crop it. The children spontaneously composed the rest of it for me.

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Phil Douglis01-May-2006 21:46
As you can see from the comments here, Jenene, not everyone agrees with you as to the composition. Monique would rather have these children looking at the camera, as in a traditional portrait. Rod and Galina intuitively would opt for a sweeping horizontal frame, Ruth, Ramma and yourself, however, all agree with my intentions for this image. There is no one right way to make an image, Jenene -- every photographer must think about their own purposes for their photos and compose them accordingly. I am happy to have you validate the power of the vertical frame here. You read the image well, and it moves you as it moved me.
JSWaters01-May-2006 18:19
I love the vertical orientation of this image - I think it's a huge reason why this image is not a 'portrait' of five children. The lush green of the jungle juxtaposed to the bleak, washed out sky tells me alot about the lives of these youngsters. They see Western tourists daily with riches they could never dream of, and live quite happily in a world we Westerners consider less than desireable. No wonder the range of expression on their faces.
Phil Douglis18-Feb-2006 01:00
Thanks, Galina, as always, for your delightful view of this image. You make a good point about other alternatives -- but in the end, each us makes the image we feel expresses the idea we are trying to get across. Mine happened to be vertical, while you and Rod would have gone horizontal with it. None of us are right or wrong. I am glad you enjoyed the image so much.
Galina Stepanova17-Feb-2006 20:34
Hi, Phil.
I am glad, I found this wonderful image and those priceless natural and sincere expressions and poses, you photographed so well. Intuitively I agree with Rodney about horizontal framing, also it would help to get rid partly of gray sky on background, which again, to me, will benefit the picture. Also, I think, it would be nice to have some more space in front of children, to have "the room" for they looks, what about move all group more to the right? Just thoughts.
Great work, I would be happy if this image was mine.
Regards.
Phil Douglis07-Oct-2005 23:41
Thanks, Ramma -- as Ruth notes below, each of these children is expressing a different human value. They were amazed, awed, skeptical, worried, and curious about us.
Ramma 04-Oct-2005 19:05
I love this image. You have managed to catch each child unaware, which is a big task, and the composition works well with me. There is this curiosity, which adds to the photograph. makes me wonder what is it that caught the attention of all 5 children, and a group of tourists would've never been my guess ~
Phil Douglis25-Sep-2005 23:10
Thanks, Rod, for your views on the composition of this image. I simply have a different concept in mind than you do for this photograph. There are many ways to compose a picture, no one right or wrong way. I was thinking of clustering here, and clustering, to me anyway, calls for a vertical frame. I included the dirt at their feet to make a comment about their lives. The washed out sky is the price I paid to stress those jungle behind them, which also adds context for how they live. In other words, these kids are clustering together as a unit, living in the face of harsh conditions. That is why I cropped and frame it in this manner.
Guest 25-Sep-2005 20:28
I should say the photo is very rich in human values, but as this photo is supposed to represent an example of composition (as it is in this gallery) I just felt it fell short. Thx-- Rod
Guest 25-Sep-2005 20:26
Hi, Phil. I'm not certain this really works, for me. From your description, I agree including only these five, instead of the original 8 kids, as a good choice. But, this vertical crop seems to go against a grain in my head. Everything about them 'feels' horizontal: their collective forms, their look to the side (not up or down) even the line of the fallen tree branch they are sitting on. Maybe a horizontal crop of just the five, or even better a 1:1 ratio crop of the five would have been much stronger. I als feel including the extra dirt and a washed out sky does not add much to the photo in terms of meaning or environment. Again, this is all my opinion.
Phil Douglis17-Apr-2005 22:21
I see you have been studying my human values gallery as well, Ruth. Your interpretations are fascinating. You are right about these kids -- their body language says it all, and I tried to compose this image to stress that body language without diluting it. The lean of of their bodies, the up and down directional flow of their heads and the placement of their feet, all working within a vertical frame, organizes this image for both coherence and meaning.
ruthemily17-Apr-2005 21:55
human values:
from left to right ~
amazement, awe, skepticism, worry, curiosity

children are amazing. they say it as it is. your composition is fantastic here. the children show such a range of emotion, yet they are all looking at the same thing. this diversity of interpretation amongst the children at what they are seeing would not work if they were looking in varying directions, or indeed towards your lens.
Phil Douglis01-Mar-2005 00:24
I posted this image to teach composition. This image is all about flow and movement, coherence and harmony. You may have misread both the picture and my intentions if you see this as a failed portrait. I never intended it to be a portrait. These kids are clustered together naturally, intently watching tourists out of the frame. I waited for this moment, Mo. The last thing I wanted here was a picture of a bunch of kids looking at the camera.
monique jansen28-Feb-2005 12:33
Personally I would have preferred it if the kids had looked more at the viewer of the picture, but maybe you are trying to draw our attention to the thing we cannot see outside the frame, and on which all the kids' attention is focused.
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