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Stacking Rice, Yangon, Myanmar, 2005

Every day, tons of rice arrives at Yangon’s river port. Young men carry the huge bags to a holding area, where they are stacked in enormous piles. (You can get a glimpse of the physical effort that goes into this job in my photograph of a group of rice carriers on the move, which is displayed in my black and white gallery. See it by clicking on the thumbnail at the bottom.

This is a more abstract approach to an image devoted to the same job. Here we see two carriers, one from behind, and one just suggested by only a single leg, working with the stack itself. The diagonal thrust of that leg, entering the frame in the upper left hand corner, leads directly to the bag of rice on the other man’s back, and echoes the line of his dangling arm.

There are more than 50 bags in this shot. All were carried here on somebody’s back. And all of them will be carried away from here on somebody else’s back, as well.


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Phil Douglis01-Jun-2005 17:30
Hi, Scott, and thanks for clarifying your impressions of this image, and for responding to Ruth's comment as well. This is what I want my cyberbook to be -- a place for dialogue, and this is what the three of us have had on this image. I always appreciate a different take on my images -- they would be failures if they said the same things to every viewer, because it would mean that I had left too little for the imagination.

I can't speak for Ruth -- but I can tell you that she does not "blindly agree" to anything. She is a fiercely independent thinker, and she will fight for what she believes in. As an example, be sure to read her feisty take on my Chicken Lady athttp://www.pbase.com/pnd1/image/40169878 . We completely disagreed on this one, yet she gives us excellent reasons for preferring my color version to my black and white rendition. On this image, we happen to agree -- and with each agreement or disagreement, everyone can learn something. That's the function of my galleries. To promote learning. Thanks for returning to this image, Scott.
scott 01-Jun-2005 12:22
Ruth, when I said that the foot led me out of the image, I didn't mean it in a negative way. In fact, I was just merely pointing out a perspective other than that of Phil's. Actually, I agreed w/ Phil when he said that it gave you a feeling that the work was continuous.

When the foot is leading inward, then the subject is the worker w/ the sandbag(?), and the hardship he is going through by carrying such heavy loads. Did you notice the violet writing on the bag that resembles an arrow? Isn't it pointing downward, I feel that it also symbolically illustrates the weight of the sandbag.

When it's leading out of the image, you then realize that the worker at the center is just part of a larger workforce. Now from which perspective can you derive more interpretation? That's up to the viewer. To me, I find more meaning when it's leading towards the outside.

I think that Phil wouldn't really mind when a different take is given to an image instead of simply reading his image description then blindly agreeing. Not that I'm saying you are.
Phil Douglis06-May-2005 23:40
Once again, you have stepped in to bring a fresh perspective to one of my images, Ruth. Thanks for showing us why the directional thrust of the leg itself is irrelevant. Ultimately, this photograph is about teamwork. These men are part of a chain of workers, as you say -- and chains can flow in both directions. As for thinking out of the box, I like your pun. The guy at upper left seems to have momentarily turned his attention elsewhere, but he'll be back. All we have to do to see him again is to use our imaginations.
ruthemily06-May-2005 12:38
i don't think the issue of whether the leg leads you eye into or out of the photo is a particularly relevant one. it probably does both, for different people. it depends where your eye enters the photo. i actually think that if it does lead you out, it adds meaning. it puts your imagination to work. you can choose to be led out of the photo and then just see a grey pbase gallery screen OR you can choose to be led out of the photo and think of the rest of the scene that Phil saw but we can only sit here and imagine. scott, you noticed the fact that it leads you out, whereas Phil commented on it leading you in, but then you seemed to switch immediately to rules that you have probably read about, and you didn't think beyond those. THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX! (all those puns are rubbing off on me)
so...i think this stray leg is necessary for imagining more than what your frame could "capture" (i know you hate that word, Phil but i can't think of another!) without it, the centre man's world would seem very enclosed and lonely and isolated and the burden would seem so much greater. he would be alone with all those sacks to carry. instead, with simply seeing that man's leg as he leans over to his right, i imagine a chain of workers all working together to get the job done. it therefore gives me the impression of team work, and of people joining forces to help each other. a much more positive outlook.
Phil Douglis06-May-2005 05:18
I organized this image to say that the work here is continual, as these carriers come and go, while other workers stack the bags. They use their arms, their heads, and their feet to get the job done. This truck is almost full, and when it is, it will leave and another will come, and these people will fill it with stacked bags of rice as well. I think this image tells that story, in a symbolic sense quite well. As for the question of eye flow, you can look at it anyway you want. It makes little difference to the point at hand, or at foot. (Pun intended!)
Guest 05-May-2005 14:52
I'm not sure but I tried examining the photo again but the leg still pulls my eye out of the subject.
Phil Douglis05-May-2005 00:34
I disagree, Scott. The dangling leg can't lead out of the picture because it is pointing directly at the subject. As I noted in my caption, this leg echoes the dangling arm of the bag carrier. If I removed it from the image, the shot would be much more symetrical and predictable. It also suggests that the work here goes on and on -- it does not begin and end with the bag carrier alone.
scott 04-May-2005 06:27
This would've been a better image w/o the dangling leg. Instead of leading me into the image, the leg is leading me out of it.
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