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Fighting position

One of our bunkers. We called this design the "Hay Hole", because the design was mandated by Division Commander Major General John Hay. Although good to hide in because of the double overhead cover, the major blind spot to the front, and overlapping fields of fire made soldiers worry about being trapped and overrun if the perimeter was breached. The closed design played Hell with your eardrums if you had to fire a weapon from inside. A lot of soldiers stayed inside when there were incoming mortars or rockets, but fought from behind the bunker for better visibility. The sump in front of the firing port was supposed to keep grenades from being rolled into the bunker. If they got that close they could drop them through the back door.

The Division Commanders before and after MG Hay (Major General Depuy and Major General Keith Ware) both approved simpler bunker designs with open-front views, which required less time digging in. The merits of both designs can be argued, but we spent many nights without sleep building Hay Holes, only to tear them down and move on a few days later.


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Don Kemp 14-Aug-2017 03:29
Dave, Thanks for posting. I enlisted in 1972 but missed Vietnam. Was in Korea when Vietnam fell. Later served in 2/28 Black Lions in Mainz Germany, 8th Infantry Division 1979 - 1983.
Charles rafferty 16-Dec-2015 02:44
Bunker building contest fire support base Lorraine . 1969 b co 1/28 after being dropped off in a clearing at the top of atlas wedge . Lima plt lay on the ground hoping you wouldn't be over run simple task for Nva. That first night was the first night of fsb lorraine. Early next morning we began building bunkers. The ground was like cement. We built the best 1st division bunker. We won the contest was told by a colnol the the sarge ts got 3 days vung tau. We had patrol and finished the 3 strand concertina wire and watched mortar plt put out aiming stakes second night. I noticed small red dot out in the black night . We figured it was Nva smoking a cigarette . As it was next to tree and didn't move. That area was under a fog of forbodeing and knowing we were under grip of something we had no control. We heard things through the night. B co stayed at lorraine and next morning we went on uneventful patrol ambush patrol back to Lorraine. Everyone knew we were going to be hit with ground attack but so far Nva didn't make contact. After uneventful patrol we ended up back walking into Lorraine We were stopped at the wire by the lt. I was point so I reached the wire first. I talked to one of fellow bravo co . He was sent out for listening post it was getting close to dark . Bailey told me they had been notified that Nva were prepping for major assault. The lt yelled at me to get on the slick that had landed for us. That was the most difficult time for me and as I left b co at wire Bailey was asking us not to leave them. After an exchange with lt. And his offer of court martial if I didn't got on chopper and meet a cav unit for mounted ambush Outside fsb doc all hell broke loose fsb and bravo company was over run and we were in colonial hopinski 's war. Fsb dock was hell outside the wire. Seperated from lima plt after we blew claymores and romped into the midst of Nva doing their best to take doc . Three of us were stranded about a k out from doc on a disabled apc. The three of us hunkered down in the pitch black with Nva between us and doc and others behind us. I left spivey and another and climbed aboard the disabled track got on m60 and helped defend.
Mike Hansen 21-Sep-2011 06:26
I carried C$ for blowing mines and would do a shape charge when I was beat and get the bunker hole started. I hated building those bunkers just to tear them down in a couple days.
Gouveia 04-Mar-2010 18:53
Home is where your heart is , But a good Bunker is where u dive at first yell - INCOMING.
Joe Hare 20-Feb-2010 21:09
Hey Dave, Do you have any background (time, location, etc.)? The two GI's favor a couple of guys that I know, Dale Carry & myself. The location does not look real familiar, but 42-43 years there is a lot I don't remember. Still enjoy you site, but have trouble keeping up with the pictures you add.
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