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4th - "Jammin' Music" by Lydia too

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Canon DSLR Challenge		16-Apr-2008 15:13
Thanks for your sweet compliment, Rod. ~Lydia

Rod		16-Apr-2008 10:08
The big danger of learning photography wiv these sort of picys is you can get such crystal clear picys within a short time frame but it can take so much longer getting good picys out there. Some may be tempted to stay doing these sort of picys to look like better photographers than wot they are. There's no real problem with that but it will stunt their growth into photography. Photoshop tricks do the same.....IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII reckon:-) Anyhow our Lydia has no problems wiv silly picys like this & doing works of ahrt as can be seen in her other entries here. Wot a woman:-)

ctfchallenge		15-Apr-2008 19:46
Thanks, RK. I agree that it's a great way to learn photography. I always learn a lot on these 'studio' sessions. I can play with settings and figure out stuff without putting anybody else out or missing the shot by my learning curve. I recommend it if one wants to learn more about photography. ~Lydia

Canon DSLR Challenge		14-Apr-2008 01:40
Great concept and well executed. To me, the setup shots are ultimate way of channeling ones creativity (in terms of photography)... you get to pick the subject, the background and most importantly the lighting. - RK

ctfchallenge		13-Apr-2008 16:29
LOL, Rod. I don't think the Earth could take an image like that! :) I understand, Doug. My thanks to you, anyway. ~Lydia

Rod		13-Apr-2008 09:06
Doug I don't think our Lydia is quite ready yet to do a SP Penthouse type centrefold:-)....I could be wrong:-)

ctfchallenge		13-Apr-2008 04:09
It's a great shot Lydia. I can see it being used in a magazine add for headphones. I would agree that it has the same photography appeal as the rest of the adds in the mag though. Your capable of the center fold. Let's see it. -COAmature

Rod		12-Apr-2008 22:45
Of course we can Rodney..now bugger off we're enjoying ourselves. It's not so much if a shot is set up or not Lydia it's more does it look set up & staged. In my view me butt picy wiv Holly is very devalued because the attraction of picys like that is the spontaneity of seeing & capturing moments in time as it were, so setting it up like I did was a real cheat I think but it didn't have a set up or staged look to it making it more interesting. Picys like you have here is really as you say a taste thing, I would hate to have a photography book full of product type picys but most general purpose photography books are interesting to keep looking at. Anyhow Lydia we luv to have a chat & you should be well pleased that this terrific looking girly picy is getting lots of attention:-)

ctfchallenge		12-Apr-2008 15:25
Can't we all just get along? - Rodney King

ctfchallenge		12-Apr-2008 14:37
Dang Lydia - you should be a surgeon (or maybe you are?)! Very sharp! - angioman

ctfchallenge		12-Apr-2008 13:50
Sorry, Carole. I always 'save for web'... always have... I like the way I'm able to work the size and percent together so minutely to get it to 150MB. Here ya go, though: f/11, ISO400, 1/11s, 35mm Hubby has my tripod so I handheld and no flash. ~Lydia

ctfchallenge		12-Apr-2008 13:38
Tom said: "the problem with this kind of shot is that it is artificial and staged." It is that... but it's my representation of sound, and that was the requirement. It's no more staged than Rod taking Holly and a dog to a spot and telling them to show their bottoms for a no butts photo in the last challenge. I just choose to do it in my home instead of out. I do know that this kind of shot doesn't appeal to everyone. But, does any style of shot appeal to everyone? I don't think so. All of that said, I'm not at all offended by folks not liking it. So, carry on... ~Lydia

Rod		12-Apr-2008 12:58
Aamm you're testing me manly hood a, seeing if I'm man enough to do a girly set up picy. If I have a spare 5mins tomorrow I will knock a couple up:-) Unless of course I get too busy taking proper picys wiv me massive lenses:-)

aam1234		12-Apr-2008 06:38
Actually the question is the reverse. Everybody is doing it, how come you are not. Afraid and can't control light, aren't you ;)

Rod		12-Apr-2008 06:16
If it's so hard Aammm why do all the girls do it.......well plus Techo & Cats:-)

aam1234		12-Apr-2008 06:07
So why don't you prepare a bit in advance, and post a setup pic. Opps, he can't. He he. Natural light is the best, and it's easy too. Studio light is Damn Hard!

Rod		12-Apr-2008 04:27
It's not a masterpiece Aammm it's a girlypiece:-) When I win this topic the next subject will be flowers or sunsets but when I win the one after that I will make the topic silly set up picys. Then Mr Aammm you will see me fantastic looking product picys:-)

aam1234		12-Apr-2008 03:49
A masterpiece. Now try to top that, Rod. If you dare ;)

Guest		12-Apr-2008 02:50
Just expressing my personal bias, the problem with this kind of shot is that it is artificial and staged. OK for advertising and for folks who enjoy it, but count me out. Of course it takes skill in the setup including lights, but I can't see the point except to have a little fun. It uses the medium of photography to create what.. a graphic that doesn't exist except in the mind and in this setup? I prefer more earthly and "found" universal situations that for me form core of the photographic (art) form - that is, the recording of a situation like no other medium can manage. But in the end, it's just a personal bias and all forms of photography are equally valid in our lives which, as Rod said, are too short to fuss about such things. -tv

Rod		11-Apr-2008 21:05
Of course you get an A for this Lydia as it's as good as any professional product picy, made even more impressive that you used natural light. I can see the water moving clearer this morning which makes the picy more relevant to this silly topic:-) You are inspiring me to get off me bum & get some picys:-)

ctfchallenge		11-Apr-2008 16:48
Good lighting and good idea but at first I thought this was not particularly on topic. After looking harder, I see there is a bit of movement in the liquid. Maybe try this again Lydia with more detail in the liquid - bigger splash or clearer glass needed? If you did a "save as" instead of "save for the web" we could see the exif too. Great idea though! :-) CJ

ctfchallenge		11-Apr-2008 14:54
Interesting opinion. I think knowledge/experience/talent to get the shot that one sets out to get, with or without equipment, is an accomplishment. I think I get amnesty from your setup argument, though... since I do not own any photography lights, and this was shot with natural light from a window. -- Not even an incandescent bulb lit in the room or a reflector of any kind besides the sheet of white posterboard behind it. Do I get an 'A' now, Rod? begging ~Lydia

Rod		11-Apr-2008 14:19
It depends on wot you call understanding of light Debi. To get good natural light picys requires more understanding of light I would think. When doing picys like this you just move around the lights around until it looks good in the viewfinder, you don't have to have any knowledge of light to do that. Once you have the basic gear of a couple of lights & some backdrops you can knock these sorts of picys out at will after a few weeks of doing them. I think picys like this are far easier to get than good picys in natural light as you can control everything in a set up picy. It's much easier to get great looking picys from set ups or in a studio that will impress the impressionable but it's quite hard to get natural light picys that will impress. The degree of difficulty isn't really the issue either it's more that there's really no feel or emotion in most set up picys as they're really just product shots rather than being a still life picy. Lydias Dragon fly picy next door is a way better picy than this I reckon but it doesn't get half of the attention that this does. The reason is I think is because people see this type of picy as being as good as a professional product picy, which it is but product photography is a poor cousin to proper photography init:-)

deseng		11-Apr-2008 13:33
I am not sure why set-up shots cant be good photographs. It requires a lot of understanding of light and that itself should be worth something. Creating the set-up requires creativity so that's another plus. May be Rod you could explain a bit more? - Debi

Rod		11-Apr-2008 13:14
Lydia I thought everyone's main idea in photography was to get picys that I like:-) I do agree wiv you that we should all do wot we enjoy doing, life is to short to do otherwise. Anyhow you shouldn't worry about using ideas you have seen in other picys & as Penny said it can be your version of that idea. Plus don't forget the picy you got the idea from that photographer could have got the idea from a picy they saw.

ctfchallenge		11-Apr-2008 12:20
clever one, Lydia! (call it your own take on someone else's photo) Penny Street

Guest		11-Apr-2008 11:32
That's the reason photography is so fun for all sorts of people, Rod. We can all enjoy taking shots of what we like to do. ~Lydia

Rod		11-Apr-2008 08:44
It's quite funny as picys wiv big speakers & singing into mikes are not considered sound yet ear phones on a glass is perfect. Set up product type picys are fun to do but they don't make for good picys in the world of photography a. Anyhow I'm glad Lydia enjoyed doing this & it does look very nice but not satisfying for me.

ctfchallenge		11-Apr-2008 02:09
LOL, Konstantin. You should copycat someone like I did. grin Thanks, Fly and aam. ~Lydia

ctfchallenge		11-Apr-2008 02:00
well done. theFly

aam1234		11-Apr-2008 01:46
Now you are singing.

ctfchallenge		11-Apr-2008 01:29
Not good from you Lydia, not good ... With this first entry you push the boundary so high ... what should we - just normal human beings - do now ? Konstantin

ctfchallenge		11-Apr-2008 00:10
Thank you, Angio. Gerald, it's actually not my idea. I saw something like this a long while ago... forgot all about it even after I heard the topic. The original is better, if I recall... sigh Thanks, aam. I've adjusted it now. Better? ~Lydia

aam1234		10-Apr-2008 23:15
Damn Lydia, I hate you...in a very good way. Wish the BG was a true white, though. It appears a little gray here.

ctfchallenge		10-Apr-2008 22:21
Ingenious idea. Perfect. -Gerald

ctfchallenge		10-Apr-2008 22:01
Perfect Lydia - great composition and right on the mark for the challenge! Way to set the bar on the first submission. Is the sound really shaking up that liquid? Must not be James Taylor:) - Angioman

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