For My Visitor's Entertainment by ctfchallenge


12-OCT-2007	John Prichard

A corner of my visitor table is reserved for people visiting my office.

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J.V.		23-Oct-2007 03:59
No negative space/Fill the frame: Check. Unrelated stuff: Check. Equal attention to four corners and middle: Check. Quite possibly the most topical picture of the challenge.

ctfchallenge		20-Oct-2007 16:51
I be happy to play with some of that stuff- looks like a fun office John. Well taken too. ~Brent

sue anne		17-Oct-2007 23:39
Looks like fun entertainment and cluttered too,

Maurice Allain		17-Oct-2007 11:21
Good capture, lots of interest in every area of the frame, works very well... also...great for the future... shots like this become a time capsual.

ctfchallenge		17-Oct-2007 04:38
this is a great photo. it looks like a fun office. I'm not sure if this was "posed" or not, but somehow I like the natural and casual "feel" to this. and I like the soft lighting too. - b.c.

ctfchallenge		14-Oct-2007 16:51
This is a good example of the kind of complications encountered when the "clutter" is taken literally. Its a real challenge to make some sense of the mess. Frankly, the "right" place along the edges can ba a test of patience in moving things around and reframing. Rod makes a point that consistency of the relationship of objects with the frame is important, either cut off in an effective way or generally arranged so they are not cut off, for example. Moving them around is ok in my book since we are making "arrrt" not documenting our environment. According to a photographer I met who was at Iwo Jima, even that famous photographed was staged, and after the actual event which was not photographed. Maybe you guys know that already, but I like it as a precendent - even if it seems a little shadey for photojournalism. -tv

Rod		13-Oct-2007 20:56
I wouldn't change it John as I don't know if I'm right about things having to touch or pass the outside frame. It's after having read Tommy talking about the importance of the edges that I thought I understood. So wait until you get an opinion from Tommy before changing this as it might be just what he's after.

Guest		13-Oct-2007 15:50
It looks just as cluttered as everyone else's to me John. -COAmature

John Prichard		13-Oct-2007 11:44
Thanks Rod. I agree that some of the stuff should either have been cut off or it should be closer in on the right. I tried top to bottom and left to right framing to make this better but really couldn't give up on those silly "make a nose" thingys and I really wanted at least one of the metal puzzles to show up for their bright shiny silver effect. Of course I could have just pushed the stuff over but I think that is cheating since it is about capturing the environment from a particular perspective not interacting or constructing the environment. Now I get what those pro photographers are doing when they are walking around moving things. This is also why I got another no-no at the top on the white paper pad - it is a way "out" of the picture. Oh well, I will leave this one as it stands and go take something else. John

ctfchallenge		13-Oct-2007 04:08
Very fun clutter you have there John and colorful too! :-) CJ

Rod		13-Oct-2007 01:29
Nicely done John with the edge of the shot cutting through the clutter acting like a border for our eyes to go no further. The only let down for this topic is the bottom right where Kermit & the round containers need to be just slightly cut off by the edge of the frame. But wait until Tommy see's it so he can clarify if I'm on the right track.

John Prichard		12-Oct-2007 23:51
I overrode the white balance to set it correctly. Laid a true white piece of "copy" paper down with the stuff to set it. The only true white items here are the little white car (has some kind of air launcher - don't see it in this crop) and "Jack's" head (don't know why/who brought this over). I really dislike the fluorescents they have in my office -- maybe this is why I am exhausted at the end of the day. Every thing else is cream or the kind of white that breaks down after years under these lights. All the other colors are spot on too. I got to clean this up someday. John

aam1234		12-Oct-2007 23:20
You might want to pay attention to WB though :)

aam1234		12-Oct-2007 23:05
Waw. Each item tells a story. Impressive work.

aam1234		12-Oct-2007 23:04
I knew this is a good photo from the thumb. Super photo. You need to get a dSLR, John.

ctfchallenge		12-Oct-2007 20:20
We typically use my office for international conference calls so I have a corner of my visitor's table for nicknack's that people bring me. They abide their time while listening to the call. The red gyro, several ring metal puzzles, and the magnetic mess & man in the top middle are the chief attractions. Most of the metal ring puzzles didn't make it into the crop because the corner would be too negative. I didn't re-arrange this since I wouldn't do as good a job as my colleagues at just pushing everything toward the end. I see 3 others have had the same idea as me. John

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