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2005:10:22 23:33:29	Traveller

Between Fire and Ice * Traveller

I have a hundred variations of this...with different ice molds, in flaming color, in sepia...what the heck...you have to stop somewhere. Though I may play with this again. I might add that it was not as easy as I thought making ice burn.

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Canon DSLR Challenge		29-Oct-2005 01:09
I have brandy flambe from time to time, so I have a bit of experience with this issue. Brandy, you see, should be drunk warm. Or at least that's how I like it. I think it's supposed to be the temperature it would be if you held the snifter in your warm hand. Anyway, Courvoisier burns readily at this temperature, but much colder than that and it's very hard to light. Gran Marnier usually burns more readily because it has a higher concentration of alcohol. In any case, no batter what the liquid fuel, it's not the liquid that burns. Rather, it's the vapor that burns. Cool the fuel, and the vapor pressure goes down making it more difficult to burn. I'd suggest something that evaporates quickly. As someone else mentioned, isoporpyl alcohold would work well. But get a bottle with a high percentage of alcohol. Pharmacies most commonly sell it diluted 50%. Try to find 70% or even 90% isopropyl alcohol. Or maybe a shot of Everclear. -- Victor

Canon DSLR Challenge		28-Oct-2005 22:14
Don't know about the fire and ice theme,I have a hundred at home,it just falls flat, maybe needs a background change or a different aspect. eric

Canon DSLR Challenge		28-Oct-2005 10:06
Ye Gads! What happened to my EXIF????!??? Ah, yes, I worked this in Tiff and 16bit and then reconverted this back to jpeg...the EXIF gets lost in this process. Olaf, I would delete this entirely except that I will submit another fire and ice shot and there are some cool comments here already on the subject. Kind of a collective history. Finally, sushhhhh, but I'm leaving the Pug's up because I have three variations...that I will substitute in over time to see if anyone notices....hehehehehe....Best wishes, Traveller

Guest		25-Oct-2005 21:59
Dear traveller, in fear of getting this stuck with your red-feathered indian, I am making an exception for you, by not moving this to pending, but instead asking you to please add a date to this shot... ;-)

Shu		24-Oct-2005 14:07
Very effective! Very creative! shu

elips		24-Oct-2005 07:13
There you go! This in color is much more interesting than the b&w one was! ~Sharon

Vikas Malhotra		24-Oct-2005 06:26
I love this one in colour, the B&W wasn't as impressive. Cheers, Vikas.

Canon DSLR Challenge		23-Oct-2005 23:44
Isopropyl alcohol, You say? Hummmm, I would never have through of that. It actually burns, eh? Thanks Lee, I'll give it a try. Best Wishes, Traveller

Canon DSLR Challenge		23-Oct-2005 23:27
I would suggest black baking sheet with at low rim. Shoot at a black background, but put the background far away so the flames to not make reflections on it. I would use isopropyl alcohol and just pour away. Then light and make sure the camera is in cont mode. I would also move in close to the flames. theFly

Canon DSLR Challenge		23-Oct-2005 20:36
Well, thanks for the interest in this failed experiment. However, I will give this another effort...if only because I seem to like flames....lol I had ice cubes of course, but I also used a long and then a round plastic container to make additional ice molds. I thought that in the depression on top I could burn lamp fluid, (Kerosene) {no}, or paint thinner, {no also}, or Lacquer thinner, {yes but maybe furiously dangerous}. In the end simple lighter fluid worked best, but I will add that even with lighter fluid I never did get it to burn on top of my larger ice molds. I am not sure, however, why this should be. Either the lighter fluid diluted in the melting top of the ice or the added volume of liquid caused it to run down the face of the ice mold...in any case, it wouldn’t burn where I wanted it to. This was also a more generalized problem of some importance. I’m sure that most people could do this better than I, but if you do, make sure that your subject is PERFECTLY flat because the fire and liquid will run swiftly downhill, wherever that may be. Best Wishes, Traveller

elips		23-Oct-2005 15:37
I would like to see a color version of this as well. ~Sharon

Canon DSLR Challenge		23-Oct-2005 12:51
Believe me, I do. It was one of the hardest pictures I have ever taken. I would make two suggestions. Do not use a background and get closer. theFly

Guest		23-Oct-2005 11:26
It would be interesting to see in color as well. This grayscale version is almost the same color as the background color of the gallery - perhaps a simple black or white 'frame' around it would help separate it from the background? Or perhaps it needs to have more contrast and/or darker shadows (overall darker) in this black and white version?