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04-JUL-2004 Adam Clutterbuck

Champion's Hands *

Somerset, UK

I know it looks awful.
This image is good enough to fool the eye on my television screen.
I think it is interesting when you think about the over-riding quest for sharpness and an absence of noise!
The commentator was remarking on the new Wimbledon Champion's grip on the trophy. He did not want to let it go.

Canon EOS 300D Digital Rebel
1/40s f/2.8 at 50.0mm iso800 hide exif
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Date/Time04-Jul-2004 23:53:33
MakeCanon
ModelCanon EOS 300D DIGITAL
Flash UsedNo
Focal Length50 mm
Exposure Time1/40 sec
Aperturef/2.8
ISO Equivalent800
Exposure Bias
White Balance (-1)
Metering Modematrix (5)
JPEG Quality (6)
Exposure Program
Focus Distance

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Guest 08-Jul-2004 07:55
I'm more than happy to pull the image as it is not going to win any awards!
The sculpture in my other photo is on a National Trust property here in the UK. The NT's policy for this particular property is that the interior of the property is protected by copyright and rightly photography is not allowed (I politely asked), but there are no restrictions outside in the gardens (where the statue was). - Adam
Guest 07-Jul-2004 20:36
A similar discussion would apply to the sculpture. In fact, there are sculptures that the public is not permitted to photograph because the lighting is copyrighted. At least so I've read.

From what I understand, the fair use provision of the copyright law allows you to make copies of works for personal use. You can also excerpt works when citing them in another work.

But that is not what is happening here. Here, Adam is representing the work as his own (it's not a review of the video, or something like that).

Furthermore, the subject of the challenge is hands, not anything where shooting a TV screen serves to highlight the subject. Look at it this way, if a different image were on the screen, would the picture still work? No. It's the work of the original photographer that is being showcased. At least that's my opinion. -- Victor
Guest 07-Jul-2004 07:59
I guess I was hoping for a little discussion about this. Although what I find interesting is how the human eye is fooled by the low resolution of a normal TV screen. I hadn't even thought about the legitimacy of claiming the photo as my own. I'm not expecting to win the challenge with it, I'm not expecting any votes. I just felt it fitted the challenge nicely and is interesting. What are the copyright issues with public broadcast anyway? I know a video or dvd will have a copyright, but what about tv?
Interesting - Adam
Olaf.dk 07-Jul-2004 07:37
I don't agree with Victor. Adam CHOSE to take a picture of the TV-screen, looks like it's cropped as well. The obvious screen quality holds a statement and a story. The photographer wasn't there, but experiencing this from a remote location - really says a lot about how virtual our reality has become in these modern times (OK, TVs have been around for quite a while, but still). To me this has just as much personal interpretation, albeit a different one, than if it had been shot directly with a camera on location. I don't know if it was a concious choice to shoot at 1/40s, but it has left half the lines dark. If it had been shot at 1/20s, it would have the full information that the human eye perceives when watching TV. I like the dark lines though - as it adds to the screen quality and hence the story of the photograph. If it was intentional - that would be another thing Adam did to make this photograph a personal interpretation. --Olaf
Canon DSLR Challenge07-Jul-2004 07:08
So what you've done is take a snapshot of someone else's photo. I guess what I'm missing is how you claim this as your own. -- Victor