16 Fresh Venison with Hasenpfeffer Appetizer by Canon Image Challenge

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23-Sep-2021	Dave

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Canon Image Challenge		04-Oct-2021 11:10
Image updated. Thanks for all the help. Dave

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 23:09
Thanks, Jim. I'll go have a look. Dave

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 21:11
I added a version in pending. Jim

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 17:39
Thanks, Traveller. I'll ask my questions there. Meanwhile, as a possible alternative, I shot a meatier deer. No appetizer, though. I've posted it in Pending. Dave

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 16:50
Dear Dave: My quick one minute fix is over in Pending. Traveller

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 15:19
Dave - sorry - DPP. When I shoot HDR, I shoot 3 or 5 raw shot in camera. My HDR software will the process those, with an output of a dng (from Lightroom) or a tiff (from Photomatix Pro). And yes, most images need adjustments to highlights and shadows. That is one way to adjust the contrast, and to account for blown out areas. Jim

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 04:00
Do you mean DPP when you type "DPR"? I did shoot it in RAW (HDR would have been jpeg) so have more opportunities for adjustment. I'm not at my photo computer right now but recall DPP having shadow and highlight adjustments. Are they ever both made to the same image? I'll see if I can get the deer to stand in a different location next time. Not sure how much that will help, though, as our yard is ringed by viburnums and evergreens. Dave

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 03:05
T - I did not repost my version of this. Up to Dave. Dave - (sort of correct) when most software (in the camera or on the computer) looks at a photo, it looks at all the pixels present. It then tries to put an average of all the pixels in the middle of the histogram. In this case, you even asked the camera to lower the "average" by 0.67 stops. The problem arises when you have a very dark area and a very bright area. In your case, it is the background and the foreground. When it presents you with an average, the bright foreground (in this case) is too bright by a stop or so. But if you changed your adjustment to -1.67, the grass would have looked better, but the background would have been too dark to see any detail. You can get around this by shooting HDR, or by selectively editing the darks (often called shadows) and the brights (highlights). In the scene you shot, it is almost impossible to get all the dynamic range into one photo from a camera. If you shot in raw, you have more range to play with than you do if you shot jpeg. That is one reason so many of us shoot in raw. Your DPR can do this, but it is clunky and not as sensitive. Jim

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 01:32
Friends mentioned how scrawny this young buck looks. He's been getting run off by an older and larger male as mating season approaches. Hopefully he'll be able to fatten up some before winter. Dave

Canon Image Challenge		25-Sep-2021 01:29
Apologies for my unfamiliarity with terminology, but please help me understand what "dropping" exposure means. The deer and rabbit were patient, so I was able to check my initial shots. That's why I dialed in -0.67 EV. It was dusk, so I wanted all the aperture I had at hand (my 135 f/2 was inconveniently upstairs). That probably helped the grass (color lightened/brightened by all the recent rain?) stand out as extra bright. Dave

Canon Image Challenge		24-Sep-2021 23:36
Jim, did you post this in Pending? I always love to see your re-works...really. Traveller

Guest		24-Sep-2021 22:38
Maybe it was a light-colored deer?

Canon Image Challenge		24-Sep-2021 14:51
T - I can get closer to what you want with just a combo of lower global highlights and lowering the luminescence of the grass ( yellow green) via HSL . You can get there via DPR, but it is a bit more complicated. Jim

Canon Image Challenge		24-Sep-2021 14:21
Traveller- I think I know what is bothering you, and it is the foreground green grass. In this case, you want more local adjustment, not global. Just dropping the global exposure a stop or more could fix the green grass, but might be too much for the deer and certainly the dark background. If you just used PS, then masking will be the solution to this. Other software like LR or ACDSee have pretty good local adjustment capabilities without the PS type masks. You could probably get away with just a PS curve if you only did the green channel; but it might screw up the deer coloration. Jim

Canon Image Challenge		24-Sep-2021 13:12
I like everything about this image. I do feel that exposure could be dropped a full stop for greater image quality....I'd say PS curves, but I know you don't have PS...but DPP4 would work. Traveller

Canon Image Challenge		24-Sep-2021 12:58
I like the Bambi and thumper reference. Paul

Canon Image Challenge		24-Sep-2021 02:54
Meal in motion. Nice. Jim

Guest		24-Sep-2021 01:17
Bambi and Thumper!

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